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    Every country/city that has lots of tourists have to deal with unpleasantness. Some of the Chinese tourists cause problems in Thailand, Vietnam, France, Canada just to name a few. Then there are the sexpats in many asian countries and places like Cuba or the DR. The hordes of drunken westerners in package tours to cheap all inclusive resorts in places like Mexico, Cuba, Spain.

    HK is part of China and has a land border(for now) so it's unrealistic to think that it's going to change, it will only get worse as HK gets closer and closer with China. If there is illegal activity then there can be a crackdown but otherwise that's the way it will be. There will always be plenty of people willing to make money from this and unless you start depriving people of their civil liberties which many always seem to be very concerned about, Chinese tourists have as much right to be here than anyone else and as long as they don't do anything criminal, they are free to behave as they wish however unpleasant that may be. Best you can do is to try to promote and educate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    What would these long staying tourists spend their money on and their time doing?
    That is the tough part. The first step is to change the targets. BangKok no longer target more tourists but target increasing spending from the same number by 12.5%. Singapore has a similar target of increasing spending per tourist rather than more tourists.

    Such a change in Hong Kong would stop the desire for more and more tourists and focus on enhancing the visits of those that come with the fostering of organic attractions and events. One poster mentioned taking in a couple of 'shows' but with basically a single provider of theatre space in the town creativity is probably stifled. The new Xinku centre looks like it has been created to allow well funded major mainland troupes to perform rather than allow creativity to flourish. Other attractions need to be made accessible that aren't shopping orientated that focus on the uniqueness of Hong Kong. Paying for Michelin to promote a few restaurants was a good initiative as it creates destinations of restaurants.

    Not cracking down on 'forced shopping' tours clearly shows a desire for more rather than better.

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    I also think that to get a long term recurrent tourism industry it needs more than coming on a RMB50 bus trip and being shipped from jewelry store to jewelry store in To Ko Wan and eating an overpriced lunch out of styrofoam containers then standing in a large group around a trash can smoking before being carted off to the next pointless store.

    The large influx of tourists has not been accompanied with simple infrastructure changes. Large swathes of Hong Kong could be made more pedestrian / tourist friendly, park and ride schemes for tourist buses, higher minimum standards for guest house licences, enhanced markets and night markets, hawker food etc.

    The biggest issue for tourists about Hong Kong on exit interviews was the over-crowding. The solution is ever more tourists.



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    We all know high spending tourists in many countries = Mainland Chinese

    Other nationals cannot rival the spending amount.

    A mainland chinese tourist spend on average higher than others in Canton Road, Gold shops in Central, Seafood restaurants in Sai Kung, gamble higher amount in Macau casinos, spend more than others in expensive brand shops in Paris and department stores in Tokyo.

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    Started soon after SARS finished in the summer of 2003
    Mainlanders could visit HK without joining tour groups.
    Reason SARS damaged HK economy greatly

    After SARS, HK saw a great increase of Mandarin speakers and questions in the streets and shops.
    Before that, HK Chinese did not have enough chances to practice their Mandarin learnt from schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by DimSumBond:
    Isn't this thread two decades late?

    Jokes aside, there are so many more mainlanders now than even 5 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    I also think that to get a long term recurrent tourism industry it needs more than coming on a RMB50 bus trip and being shipped from jewelry store to jewelry store in To Ko Wan and eating an overpriced lunch out of styrofoam containers then standing in a large group around a trash can smoking before being carted off to the next pointless store.

    The large influx of tourists has not been accompanied with simple infrastructure changes. Large swathes of Hong Kong could be made more pedestrian / tourist friendly, park and ride schemes for tourist buses, higher minimum standards for guest house licences, enhanced markets and night markets, hawker food etc.

    The biggest issue for tourists about Hong Kong on exit interviews was the over-crowding. The solution is ever more tourists.



    Over crowding. The problem is not how long they stay or how much they spend but the sheer numbers. If these "hordes" all went toexpensive shops, nice restaurants, took in shows, stayed in hotels, etc the problem would not be lessened just moved.

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    There are more than a billion people across the border. There are many who are loaded and spending mountains of money but obviously they are not noticed. Walk through any fancy hotel lobby or good chinese restaurants in HK and you are guaranteed to see mainlanders. What people notice more are the ones that are in their face.

    Go to Pattaya and what you will notice most are the old drink fat bastards with young ladies in tow, it doesn't mean that all the tourists there fall in the same category though because there are so many, it certainly brings a reputation to both Thailand and western males who travel there. Same could be said of the Philippines.

    Some of you talk as if the HK government runs the tourist industry. They don't... All they can do is promote and build some infrastructure. I certainly agree that more and better facilities would be welcome but with a billion people next door, they will be packed and overused, that's a guarantee and it won't stop the hordes from coming on shopping day trips.


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    There are too many Mainland Chinese who don't have to think before they spend big money. They have cash regularly without the need to work for money Increasing number of mainland women are no longer interested in HK or foreign men because they are born into families without the need to work or can find such men in Mainland instead of HK or other countries. HK and foreign people are often labelled as "xiao qi" meaning not generous in mainland. People spending with planned budget are looked down in the north. We HK people already know about this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lighthse003:
    There are too many Mainland Chinese who don't have to think before they spend big money. They have cash regularly without the need to work for money Increasing number of mainland women are no longer interested in HK or foreign men because they are born into families without the need to work or can find such men in Mainland instead of HK or other countries. HK and foreign people are often labelled as "xiao qi" meaning not generous in mainland. People spending with planned budget are looked down in the north. We HK people already know about this.
    There's over a billion people in China, there are millions of all kinds of people, laborers, rich, snob, kind, mean, stupid, educated, rude, prostitutes, business people, athletes, slobs, drunkards. It's not hard to find any of those up north. We who also live here and travel there know about this.

    What happened? You are having a hard time keeping the mistress north of the border happy and feel a bit frustrated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    I also think that to get a long term recurrent tourism industry it needs more than coming on a RMB50 bus trip and being shipped from jewelry store to jewelry store in To Ko Wan and eating an overpriced lunch out of styrofoam containers then standing in a large group around a trash can smoking before being carted off to the next pointless store.

    The large influx of tourists has not been accompanied with simple infrastructure changes. Large swathes of Hong Kong could be made more pedestrian / tourist friendly, park and ride schemes for tourist buses, higher minimum standards for guest house licences, enhanced markets and night markets, hawker food etc.

    The biggest issue for tourists about Hong Kong on exit interviews was the over-crowding. The solution is ever more tourists.



    your photo is actually shows taiwan, as the pharmacy store in the pic does not have any stores in hk
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