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    You're not quitting smoking, you're changing the delivery method for your addiction. Maybe it is safer, maybe it isn't, I don't personally care but it's certainly not a good thing to get kids to start regardless or not if it's a gateway to cigarettes nor is it a good thing to keep doing instead of smoking. The desirable outcome is to stop undesirable and harmful behaviors altogether. To call this potentially one of the best good news of the 21st century is ridiculous. It's not a cure, it's a crutch like nicotine gum or patches.

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    can't believe I didn't see this and debunk it immediately.

    The article calls it a pen which is a misnomer. It was a mech mod which has no circuitry built in to prohibit the device from operating at dangerous levels.

    Technically, the battery exploded.

    *** WARNING DO NOT DO THIS ***
    I am NOT advocating this but if you took a high amp battery and did something extremely stupid like putting it in your pocket with other metallic objects. IT WILL EXPLODE.
    *** WARNING DO NOT DO THIS ***

    A mech mod is 'mechanical'. There is literally no electronics to malfunction. It's like those grade school science experiments where you connect the 2 ends of a battery to a lightbulb and watch it illuminate. Claiming this 'vape pen' exploded is like saying a piece of wire exploded.

    If you set gasoline on fire, it will burn. We don't start demanding the government stars banning gasoline do we?


    Anyway, on another lighter note. Does anyone know of any source to buy JUUL pods in HK? PM me would be appreciated.

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    Zyban bupropion and Chantix Varenicline are tested and approved by the FDA and elsewhere authorities for smoking cessation.
    When combined with counselling (the NHS in UK offers 12 weeks x 1 session per week face to face counselling) the results are 3 times more effective than NRT patches which hold either 7, 14 or 21mg nicotine.
    A smoker of hi nicotine cigarettes like Marlboro Red will receive a nicotine yield of approx. 50mgs nicotine if they smoke a pack a day.
    A 21mg nicotine NRT patch is therefore unlikely to appease that smoker’s craving.
    The tobacco industry for years pushed the ISO smoking machine test whereas the Canada Intense test method reflects the actual nicotine and tar the smoker ingests.

    https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/rivm-mea...-in-cigarettes

    download the charts bottom of page here and see what you are actually ingesting
    https://www.rivm.nl/en/tobacco/filte...taten-van-tnco

    Vaping just moves the nicotine addiction to another delivery method as well as having numerous toxins that lead to heart disease, mouth, throat, lung and bladder cancers , DNA strand damage and toxic aldehydes generated by the pyrolysis of ecig flavorings.
    In a recent study in Australia 12 tested products said to contain only flavors, also contained nicotine.
    To date no e-cig juice product has been submitted to a competent authority anywhere to be tested to be certified as either a harm reduction product or a smoking cessation aid.
    The reason is of course that the manufacturers all know they will fail.

    Here are the results of a 4 year study on counselling /Varenicline combination – if you vape or smoke you should read this.. This is your way forward.
    https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/1/e009381


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    Carrie Lam overuled the nurse in charge of HK Health Bureau & listened to the medical experts


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    "Tobacco use is soaring" is pure bovine excrement.

    When one changes definitions and now that the definitions cover a much broader set of results, characterizing that as "soaring" is simply lying.

    FDA's definition :

    Vapes, vaporizers, vape pens, hookah pens, electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes or e-cigs), and e-pipes are some of the many terms used to describe electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS). ENDS are noncombustible tobacco products.

    These products use an “e-liquid” that may contain nicotine, as well as varying compositions of flavorings, propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and other ingredients. The liquid is heated to create an aerosol that the user inhales.
    I know tobacco but flavourful liquids that may or may not contain nicotine are "tobacco" in definition only and not reality.
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    the Triads are going to love this ban lol


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    The Telegraph article posted above is paywalled
    I have included the full article and others from the Sun and Daily Mail in the attachment

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