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Anyone using iQOS here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit
    Fast food doesn't contain nicotine, and serves a purpose - we all need to eat.

    Vaping serves no useful purpose and is harmful to health. Excellent decision to ban it.
    Alcoholic drinks serve no useful purpose and is harmful to health. Ban it.

    Conventional tobacco products serves no useful purpose and is harmful to health. Ban it.

    Deep-fried foods serves no useful purpose and is harmful to health when there are other healthier ways of cooking. Ban it. Aside from that, plenty of research papers do note the greasy food contribute to a whole host of health issues.

    Can't cherry pick and choose.

    If the premise is to protect children from the big evils, that should be a blanket ban. Not only on big tobacco. High cholesterol does benefit big pharma too.

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    Keep taking the pills!


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    Note to people interested in IQOS: it is not vaping but a proprietary heated tobacco system by Philip Morris tobacco empire that aims to perpetuate the addictive effects of tobacco use while protecting their profit margins. Be mindful of Philip Morris' agenda and past practices if you choose to become their customer.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit
    Fast food doesn't contain nicotine, and serves a purpose - we all need to eat.
    Here are a few common vegetables and plants shown to have nicotine content.

    Tomatoes.
    Potatoes.
    Eggplants.
    Teas.
    Peppers and Capsicums.
    Cauliflower.

    Pure pharmaceutical nicotine used in vapes (i.e. without all the added dangerous chemicals in cigarettes designed to make them far more addictive) is only slightly more addictive than caffeine and has similar neuroactive and neuroprotective effects e.g. against dementia and alzheimers. Feel free to inform yourself more on the effects of nicotine. It's no longer 1950s.


    Vaping serves no useful purpose and is harmful to health. Excellent decision to ban it.
    No useful purpose besides being effective in helping smokers to quit the toxic habit of smoking that kills every other smoker (slowly and painfully) and causes enormous cost to public health care.

    According to studies there are basically no traces of toxins in exhaled vapour while tobacco smoke laced with combustion particles carries various carcinogenic substances. Inhaled "e-cigarette" vapour is estimated to be at least 95% less harmful than tobacco smoke.

    Big Tobacco and Big Pharma are engaged in a propaganda campaign to maintain status quo where smoking is widely tolerated but inexplicably vaping is vilified through dodgy sponsored research which gets published in tabloids. They stand to lose massively if smoking and the associated chronic diseases was replaced by far less harmful alternative.

    Even the intentionally misconfigured vapes in discredited sponsored "research" contain less carcinogens inhaled than your everyday traffic exhaust, fried or deep-friend foods or industrial pollutants affecting everyone.

    Choosing to crusade against massive personal harm reduction with no external effects is slightly odd if one lacks the profit motive of big tobacco and big pharma.


    British Heart Foundation: Is vaping safe?

    Martin Dockrell, Tobacco Control Programme Lead at PHE, said: We know that e-cigarettes are probably not completely safe, but thats not the issue. The question is, are e-cigarettes safer than the alternative? And, for almost all e-cigarette users the alternative is smoking, and it's really important that they understand how much safer e-cigarettes are, compared to smoking".
    (Again note that this refers to vaping and not tobacco products like IQOS)

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