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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast
    Let's hope so
    Unfortunately, unless it gets its own font, sarcasm will always get tagged inappropriately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shri
    Unfortunately, unless it gets its own font, sarcasm will always get tagged inappropriately.
    So it will only work in America then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast
    It took a pause for 20 years while it went to China and other low labour cost countries. Talking to a Taiwanese factory owner last week he plans to spend US$500m on automation in the next 5 years moving production units nearer consumers.




    You are probably right.
    It is not a probability, at the rate that AI is evolving right now, I roughly predict that your job will not exist for a human to be tasked with that responsibility within 30 years.

    Doctors, lawyers, Ships Captains, Airline pilots, Engineers, Bankers, in fact Universities will become obsolete as Humans become redundant in the workplace as we knew it. etc you will ALL be out of a job...

    No matter how smart you think you are, with your bits of paper hanging on the wall behind your desk, you're no match for the HUGE knowledge pool that AI can sift through online, 1000's of the latest supplementary papers read, that were published globally in the last week, in a matter of minutes that would take a human weeks if not months.

    From what I have seen in the progress of human pilot-less, full AI automated cockpits aimed at commercial aviation, another human occupation that will likely not exist commercially in 20 to 30 years.In fact, it wont .
    I can also see that in military / tactical applications, AI and the automated fighter pilot will be a very real eventuality, and why not, it will out fly a human to the maximum performance of the air frame capability, well beyond a humans physical limitations.

    If you think the world is going to get a whole lot more clinical and sterile, you'd be right...

    But Im curious to know, is the direction we are headed motivated by the worst most vile greed that humans have ever managed, or is Google and their hippy mates behind it all, the ultimate Utopian wet dream, where machines do all the work, we all get a cushy livable wages and just exist ?

    Doesn't sound very fulfilling nor do I think we'll all be singing Kumbaya anytime soon... We're destined to make the world as miserable as possible for as many people, except the rich special ones... Until... it becomes acceptable to KILL the special ones and claw back what has been lost in the quality of life over the last 50 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast
    So it will only work in America then?
    I don't think the UN repository of translated documents has a lot of sarcasm in it to train the boys.

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    Doctors, lawyers, Ships Captains, Airline pilots, Engineers, Bankers, in fact Universities will become obsolete as Humans redundant in the workplace as we knew it. etc will ALL be out of a job...

    I personally think certain subjects will loose value, but at the end of the day, someone has to make the machines to take jobs away from the humans.

    The death of formal education, esp in sciences and maths is not going to happen for the next generation or two. Drama, music, history, law and a whole lot more can be codified.

    By the way, what happens to the demand side if everyone is unemployed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhook
    From what I have seen in the progress of human pilot-less, full AI automated cockpits aimed at commercial aviation, another human occupation that will likely not exist commercially in 20 to 30 years.
    Hopefully commercial aircraft pilots will be automated out of existence sooner rather than later.....

    Auto pilot for 99% of the journey with remote drone control for the last little bit if needed. I would feel safer having a specialist at the airport land the pane than a pilot that has probably only landed at the place a few times.

    Aren't Sweden centralizing the whole countries air traffic control to a shed in some industrial estate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast
    Hopefully commercial aircraft pilots will be automated out of existence sooner rather than later.....

    Aren't Sweden centralizing the whole countries air traffic control to a shed in some industrial estate?
    All sounds good until they determine that it might be more efficient to out source to TCS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast
    Auto pilot for 99% of the journey with remote drone control for the last little bit if needed. I would feel safer having a specialist at the airport land the pane than a pilot that has probably only landed at the place a few times.
    I think the autonomous part of flying has to be done on the plane. Communication links just are not reliable enough to guarantee real time signaling and control in severely adverse weather. Planes will have to be able to fly themselves, not relying on a pilot sat on the ground to fly the trickier bits.

    Most big airlines are flown on autopilot for 90%+ of the flight already.

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    Communication links just are not reliable enough to guarantee real time signaling and control in severely adverse weather.
    And the latency to Bangalore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shri
    I'm with TheBrit on this one - the biggest threat automation holds is for professionals who are analysing, managing, structuring, reviewing/checking. The threat is from advances in AI - Image / Pattern recognition, Natural Language understanding and all that...

    Might be a worthwhile project for a journo / researcher to take every job description out there in industries like Banking, Law, Accounting and then review that with existing technology and ponder what the technology could do to replace people doing what they're doing now.
    Of course certain jobs will be lost, but the real questions should be, can we maintain full employment in the economy while those advancements in automation are happening.

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