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    Honda has got its innovative design, MOJO back !

    Have to say, Honda's really have not been on my radar for quite awhile, as they became a bit, NIPPON CLIPPON in their design language, inside and out, for my liking.

    The production close Honda E, I think Honda have absolutely nailed it ! What a beautifully simple non fussy design , that looks so fresh and clean, functional and exactly what I like. ( LOVE THE INTERIOR TOO ) I DONT want or particularly like SUV's or need a large car, and if we are lucky, if they produce a TYPE R version with an increased range, say another 100km, I would be pretty happy with this.. Just what the doctor ordered..

    Well done Honda ! and great that they have designed a desirable car, not an eco statement, or some futuristic shamozzel. They finally get it!



    It's a very exciting time from about this year, when this Honda E goes into production later in 2019 and VW's new range of electric cars, Kombi and their ID Buzz cargo delivery van by 2022. Very Very cool ! looks like my petrol car is going to be worthless very shortly haha which I dont mind.



    Most of us will be driving electric cars by around 2030 and thinking to ourselves why we mucked around with overly complex ( mechanically ) ICE cars for as long as we did !... Really looking forward to the next few years. it's going to be a LOT more fun thanks to REAR wheel DRIVE

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    I guess like porn, beauty and aesthetics are in the eyes of the beerholder.

    For me they look like they've been influenced by the pillsbury doughboy. Distinctive for sure, but not something I'd be keen on.

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    As soon as I saw the Honda it reminded me of the V Golf and when I clicked the video link the 2nd comment I see posted by someone else is

    Honda brings back the classic Golf Gti as the new e?


    Still looks cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckster007
    As soon as I saw the Honda it reminded me of the V Golf and when I clicked the video link the 2nd comment I see posted by someone else is

    Still looks cool.
    I love the cabin design of the Honda E, the car width multi function displays look great, as I never liked Teslas center dash mounted tablet display, which I think has dated very badly, great cars in other ways just the cabin layout just didnt do it for me. SO its great that a mainstream car maker like Honda is going to have a bloody good crack at its foray into the EV car market.

    And yes, the Honda E does look la bit like, had a 1st generation VW Golf and a 1st generation Honda Civic had sex and voila ! the E Golf. ha ha now that you mention it! I reckon it would look alright in black too, which would hide the charging hatch cover on the bonnet, the dark glazed roof and the black band which houses the headlights on the front nose.

    I think it looks cool too and think it would be a hoot to drive, especially in Type R form. Torquealicious, sling shot acceleration and very tenacious low centre of gravity handling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhook
    Most of us will be driving electric cars by around 2030 and thinking to ourselves why we mucked around with overly complex ( mechanically ) ICE cars for as long as we did !...
    The elephant in the room is the electricity supply for several reasons. Let's look at the numbers in the UK.

    There are 31.6 million cars (not vehicles, just cars) in the UK of which today around 155000 (around 4.5K extra per month) are electric. If the UK car fleet was changed to electric and there was no smart management of charging, then the UK needs another 20GW of generation capacity (current peak demand and available supply is around the 40GW mark).

    The UK electricity supply comes under more stress due to the move to renewables. This isn't going to be helped when bad weather means more electricity use and more car use.

    In the UK, over a third of homes with vehicles don't have off-street parking. They will need charging posts (only 17000 exist today of any type, let alone on-street) or street lamp mounted chargers to charge (and those will charge you more than your home supply for sure). That's a big infrastructure cost. Who will pay? Then you have to allow for nighttime asshats unplugging or cutting cables. Like your mobile phone, everyone will plug in at night (especially if demand is managed) so there needs to be enough points for everyone or things might get nasty.

    Then there's the wiring infrastructure. A UK house has an 80A or 100A supply fuse. Like broadband speeds though, not everyone can use that at the same time in the same street. Millions of people living in the suburbs arriving home and plugging in their cars to charge is going to light up the cabling like Christmas. Charging a Tesla from a UK 13A socket adds around 30 miles of range per hour. You can charge faster, but then you need 40A cabling and not everyone in a street is going to be able to charge at the same time. What if you have 2 cars? They will have to charge at half rate, or charge one then the other or your meter is going to spin like crazy.

    Of course smart meters and charging stations would allow automatic management of the grid to reduce and spread demand (there'a around a 12GW drop in demand at night so perhaps the 20GW could drop to maybe only 8GWh demand requirement), but you'd be pissed off if you had to suddenly dash off the next day, in an emergency, or start early in the morning, and found your meter hadn't let allowed your car to charge as much as you needed.

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    A lot of work needs to be done to add 8-20GW to this:
    https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckster007
    As soon as I saw the Honda it reminded me of the V Golf and when I clicked the video link the 2nd comment I see posted by someone else is

    Still looks cool.
    That's exactly what I was thinking. With the round lights the front is like a Golf MK2 and the tail is just like the MK7.

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    This looks like a toy!

    I do like the interior though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by si0001
    This looks like a toy!
    I find it quite an odd shape, the Golf comparison doesn't work for me as the front and back don't seem to be the same designer. Maybe it's because it looks like a Golf MkII front, MkIII windscreen welded to a Golf Mk7 back.

    Ideal for a Hong Kong look though. Will definitely be owned by 20-something HK blokes filling the back window with Hello Kitty cushions and the front dash with small fluffy characters.
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    I can't quote stickyears's post but the point about parking in the UK is very valid. Rows of large but narrow Victorian housing which were not designed with cars in mind make charging at home impossible for many. Just parking near your house is almost impossible at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile
    I can't quote stickyears's post but the point about parking in the UK is very valid. Rows of large but narrow Victorian housing which were not designed with cars in mind make charging at home impossible for many. Just parking near your house is almost impossible at times.
    Obviously that is savable


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