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will upgrading icloud from 5GB to larger mean apps will be transferred automatically?

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    will upgrading icloud from 5GB to larger mean apps will be transferred automatically?

    l assume yes, but what about the conversations and photos within wechat, whats app and skype? l currently have an overfull 5GB icloud, and was going to pay for a sufficiently large icloud to store all on my old iphone 5s. then use my 'new' iphone 6+s to log into the new larger icloud, would all of things in iphone 5s, be transferred to 'new' iphone 6+s ? would it be as 'seamless' with other online storages like google drive , drop box? or is icloud best for iphone?
    l am considering sharing the icloud with family members as well who use iphones, so still icloud best?


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    l assume yes, but what about the conversations and photos within wechat, whats app and skype? l currently have an overfull 5GB icloud, and was going to pay for a sufficiently large icloud to store all on my old iphone 5s. then use my 'new' iphone 6+s to log into the new larger icloud, would all of things in iphone 5s, be transferred to 'new' iphone 6+s ?
    - For iCloud backups, I believe apps themselves will not transfer automatically. But data from those apps will. For example data from native apps (e.g. photos inside the Photos app) will automatically sync to your new device.
    - Data from other apps will also sync to your device (only if you enable iCloud backup on the app's settings.)
    - It depends on the apps. Some apps like Signal do not chats or photos to their servers. But apps like WhatsApp do. Photos or chats will automatically sync to your new device.



    would it be as 'seamless' with other online storages like google drive , drop box? or is icloud best for iphone?
    - Personally for large files (e.g. media content) I use Google Drive for streaming. iPhone's iCloud Drive will ask you to download first before opening the file.
    - You don't have to tinker as much with iCloud, compare to Google Drive or Dropbox for backing up data. iCloud service is hard-baked and seamless to what you do in your iPhone (assuming you enable iCloud).
    - iCloud is best for your native apps because the data is encrypted in server (except for iCloud mail data if you are using @icloud.com as your main email).



    l am considering sharing the icloud with family members as well who use iphones, so still icloud best?
    - If your intention for family sharing is to share your IOS app purchases, share iCloud storage you upgraded with family, etc. Then iCloud is great for that.
    Last edited by dmzmc; 26-02-2020 at 07:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevening
    l assume yes, but what about the conversations and photos within wechat, whats app and skype? l currently have an overfull 5GB icloud, and was going to pay for a sufficiently large icloud to store all on my old iphone 5s. then use my 'new' iphone 6+s to log into the new larger icloud, would all of things in iphone 5s, be transferred to 'new' iphone 6+s ? would it be as 'seamless' with other online storages like google drive , drop box? or is icloud best for iphone?
    l am considering sharing the icloud with family members as well who use iphones, so still icloud best?
    Before you switch, login to whatsapp and wechat and click backup now to make sure everything until that moment is backed up to icloud.
    You can restore your iphone5 backup to the iphone 6+s and apps with data will be transferred. There is an option called quick-start which will look for your old device and transfer everything from device to device.
    You can buy the family sharing plan if u plan to use more than 1 icloud account, hence sharing. Icloud is the best option for ios devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevening
    l assume yes, but what about the conversations and photos within wechat, whats app and skype?
    Apps themselves take no iCloud space, they are just tagged in your account and download when required so you can ignore those for space. The personal data within those apps of course needs to be be backed up (settings, chats, etc). Going from a free 5GB account to 50GB is just USD 1 per month (HKD8 in the HK app store) so hardly worth worrying about if it gives you peace of mind during the transition. You can downgrade anytime pro-rata anyway. (Upgrade before you change phones, downgrade when completed).

    iCloud space can be shared amongst the family account holders so the bigger 200GB and 2TB accounts can be more cost effective that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmzmc
    - For iCloud backups, I believe apps themselves will not transfer automatically. But data from those apps will. For example data from native apps (e.g. photos inside the Photos app) will automatically sync to your new device.
    - Data from other apps will also sync to your device (only if you enable iCloud backup on the app's settings.)
    - It depends on the apps. Some apps like Signal do not chats or photos to their servers. But apps like WhatsApp do. Photos or chats will automatically sync to your new device.




    - Personally for large files (e.g. media content) I use Google Drive for streaming. iPhone's iCloud Drive will ask you to download first before opening the file.
    - You don't have to tinker as much with iCloud, compare to Google Drive or Dropbox for backing up data. iCloud service is hard-baked and seamless to what you do in your iPhone (assuming you enable iCloud).
    - iCloud is best for your native apps because the data is encrypted in server (except for iCloud mail data if you are using @icloud.com as your main email).


    - If your intention for family sharing is to share your IOS app purchases, share iCloud storage you upgraded with family, etc. Then iCloud is great for that.
    thanks for tips, my icloud has been jam packed since years. l still not upgraded icloud yet, and did what shafiq suggested, doing a device device transfer. got 5.3k photos or videos in the iphone5s, and 'only' 1.7k get transferred to 6+s, notes gladly got transferred but not 'reminders' perhaps need to upgrade icloud to larger size and reset the iphone 6+s again and redo?

    we chat or whats app were not transferred so downloaded them again, got an acceptable transfer with whats app but we chat, all the chat, pics are not there is it a case of upgrading icloud in old iphone 5s where all the data is and reset iphone 6+s again and redo? Noticed no sms messages got transferred. got an older iphone5 which shares the same icloud, and has all the sms, so a bit confused, how l can get the sms from iphone5, data and apps from iphone5s all onto my iphone6+s
    Last edited by Gevening; 26-02-2020 at 08:39 PM.

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    update, l purchased the 50GB icloud, did a back up of the old iphone 5s went through the device device transfer to the iphone 6+s, then on 'Apps & Data' page l chose 'Restore from icloud Backup' however cant chose the iphone backup because 'iOS 13.3 Required'. so l tried updating the iphone 6+s but it says it is up to date, although it is on 'iOS 12.4.5 Your software is up to date' the 'Automatic updates' is on as well, and it won't go any newer than 12.4.5. again reminders, l have 100s, and not one is there
    l think the total capacity of iphone5s is 64GB, and only 1GB is free, however icloud uses up only 13GB of 50GB? this is despite doing an' iCloud back up now' thought the 50GB icloud would be full again, sorry for this confusion, anyone have an idea?


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    l think the total capacity of iphone5s is 64GB, and only 1GB is free, however icloud uses up only 13GB of 50GB? this is despite doing an' iCloud back up now' thought the 50GB icloud would be full again, sorry for this confusion, anyone have an idea?
    Could it be that most of the data that you have is temporary? Website and application caches can be pretty large (for example my Guardian + NY Times caches add up to about 500MB). They don't need to be transferred to the new device as the cache rebuilds its self every time you use the app?

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    Name:  IMG_43BDE02612EA-1.jpeg
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Size:  375.9 KBvery problematic are the native app, reminders, its got no reminders. notes are fine, photos are ok, but tried several things to resolve this.
    Settings > Apple ID > iCloud > Reminders. Turn it off and turn it on. even log out icloud and back in on iphone6s+. think its inability to update beyond 12.4.5 might be factor. why is this?
    looking at screen shot, it says there are 16.6MB of 'documents and data' so there must be something there
    Last edited by Gevening; 27-02-2020 at 08:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevening
    iphone6s+. think its inability to update beyond 12.4.5 might be factor.
    Did you talk to Apple about this issue?

    They can usually sort things out over chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gevening
    Name:  IMG_43BDE02612EA-1.jpeg
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Size:  375.9 KBvery problematic are the native app, reminders, its got no reminders. notes are fine, photos are ok, but tried several things to resolve this.
    Settings > Apple ID > iCloud > Reminders. Turn it off and turn it on. even log out icloud and back in on iphone6s+. think its inability to update beyond 12.4.5 might be factor. why is this?
    looking at screen shot, it says there are 16.6MB of 'documents and data' so there must be something there
    Reminders might be a big issue will all iOS updates.
    There is something called upgraded reminders which is not compatible with older version of the reminder. This is case for iOS 13 updates and suppose it was all the way similar in earlier iOS updates.

    Did you try back up iphone5 in itunes and restoring it on iphone6+?