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    Finding trailing spouses

    We are looking for a corporate support person - someone to help with our legal/insurance/other issues associated with running the company. For a number of reasons (mainly related to not putting our local office manager nose out of joint and because it would just be so much easier to communicate!) we are looking for a non-local person. Which of course is kind of hard in HK unless you go through an expensive HR search firm.

    My ideal person is the trailing spouse of a professional here, with some background in law or running firms, who would understand the needs of a small company.

    My question is - what's the best way to find that person?

    Local recruitment websites typically result in 1000 applications by people who don't read the advert and are utterly unsuitable.

    Fancy HR consultants are expensive, and the one we like deals with the analytical side of the business (and specialises in that, which is wonderful, but not when I want an admin person.....)!!!

    I can (and probably will) put an ad on here, but I'm not sure what to ask for to find that person (is there a name for this role?). Any thoughts appreciated.


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    I was recently visiting my next posting (far away from HK). There the relocation consultant mentioned that someone had started a specialist recruitment company targeting trailing spouses.


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    Try some of the Facebook groups. There is a Hong Kong MOMS job board for instance.


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    PM me some details Kath and I can help you post on some of our local groups to see if any Expat wives are interested, get them to contact you directly.

    Sai Kung and Clear Water Bay and Tseung Kwan O groups.

    Or try posting in these groups once you get in.

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/545255152309605/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/Hong...atsAndFriends/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/hong...s.expatriates/

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/DSHKofficial/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCD:
    Try some of the Facebook groups. There is a Hong Kong MOMS job board for instance.
    Some local FB forums, such as Mui Wo to Tai O families , DB forum, Tung Chung Community, Expat Hong Kong, Healthy Living Hong Kong....All the best I hope you find the right person for the position.

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    If you don't mind, how much are you prepared to pay this person, and is this a full-time or part-time job? I know a couple of people who would be interested.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeebean:
    If you don't mind, how much are you prepared to pay this person, and is this a full-time or part-time job? I know a couple of people who would be interested.
    Pay we have not discussed yet. We typically pay higher than the "local" rate for a job but lower than the "banker" rate for a job.
    Ideally full time, but 4 days a week would work. Less than that we would have to discuss/think about it.

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    ON . So my cunning plan almost worked. I got a PM from this thread which turned out to be a pretty good candidate.. but our job offer arrived a few hours after they accepted something from someone else. Sighs. Just our luck!

    So I am back at square 1 and going to have to advertise I think. However, we need a person because we are flat out right now and don't have time to read a bunch of CV's from totally unsuitable people.... plus the interview and discussions with this person and internally helped us firm up more clearly who we want which was good. So... here goes.... any views on whether the following approach is likely to work? (I stole the concept from a World Bank project manager who I have worked with, who has a similar problem weeding out unsuitable applications for World Bank jobs!):

    Job Specification:
    Corporate Services Manager. This job is to assist in the administration of a small but growing consulting firm. The candidate will be required to assist with financial aspects of the firm (including invoice preparation, expense claims, managing the bank account; dealing with the local bank on loan applications and other issues); the legals aspects of the firm (including reviewing consulting contracts for possible problem clauses and negotiating to remove those clauses, reviewing and negotiating new insurance provisions) and any other assistance that might be needed at the time (which would vary but might include anything from bringing coffee to guests to finding new office space to helping with new staff recruitment or even helping with research on consulting projects).


    The Person:
    The person we are looking for has several years of experience (but not necessarily qualifications) in the skills above acquired in a “western” business culture environment. They will have spent significant time outside of Hong Kong and worked outside of Hong Kong. They will speak fluent English and be able to understand clearly conversations taking place between Native English speakers without clarifications required. They will be keen and enthusiastic and a team player who is comfortable in a substantially non-hierarchical environment and willing to work with all levels of our organisation.


    Application:
    Please read and following the following application guidelines exactly.
    1. Please ignore any of the “online application” offers of this website and just follow the instructions below. Failure to follow these instructions will result in your application being rejected without being read.
    2. Please do not send a CV or resume.
    3. Please send, by email to [email protected], a PDF letter setting out in prose up to three examples of where you have worked previously, and the tasks you have undertaken and how they fit with our requirements above. For each example identify the approximate size, location and business culture of the organisation you worked for. The letter should be no more than two pages long with type no smaller than 12 point font. It should also include your contact details, your HK immigration status and your expected salary.

    Last edited by HK_Katherine; 28-09-2016 at 08:18 AM. Reason: oops didn't want our real email up there

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    Hey, can you please pm me. My work email has changed BTW.


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    You really need to tighten up the job spec.

    Billing/expenses/insurance/loans/legal/research/HR/negotiating/fetching coffee. Do everything, in other words.


    That's a big ask. Very niche skills. Except for the coffee bit.

    Sounds like you need someone who has previously run a small business of their own or has been a partner in one.


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