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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    Split this from another thread (Rivian) to setup a long bet ...

    Tesla vs VW, Toyota, Ford

    Assuming that the stocks listed above have enough volume / analyst & news coverage / liquidity and generally suitable for what we'd call efficient markets. Not as interested in RIVN or FUV ...

    Proposing a few simple rules:

    Time Frame: Whichever condition is met first, either till one of the components listed above goes up 100% or as long as this thread remains visible (i.e. GeoExpat is around) or a max of 8 years - taking us to April 30th, 2030.

    Earlier Termination: One of the four majors goes under, gets bought out by another or any other event which causes the ticker to stop trading. If this happens the winner is the one which has had the best return on price on that day.

    Since we want to avoid biases when one stock may move up or down unusually - let's use price at close of business on the third Fridays of March, June, September and December to call each other names.

    May the best english teacher or in my case stock picking monkey win.
    Somehow missed this before, but love it =)
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    Toyota will win the long game I feel it is just how our world works. Only making profit matters.


    https://www.greenpeace.org.au/act/toyota-files


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhook:
    Toyota will win the long game I feel it is just how our world works. Only making profit matters.
    For the sake of this thread... The 'long game' is defined. As an investor who will return more profit in total returns matters... Let's see..

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    More in the world of fast cars: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62951431


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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    For shits and giggles ... lets come back and look at this at the end of business on every quad witching day. (I've added the next 3 on my calendar)

    June 17.
    September 16.
    December 16.
    Shri, you are 8 days late for an update

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/mark...cc277fc7207912

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    Hah apologies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentleGeorge:
    The headline, depending on how full or empty your glass is the 1.3M deliveries or the annual miss of about 70K.

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    The demand for Tesla cars is still high.
    If there was no demand then yeh go ahead and bash Tesla.... you cannot argue Tesla cars will continue to sell faster than they can build.


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    Quote Originally Posted by redslert:
    The demand for Tesla cars is still high.
    If there was no demand then yeh go ahead and bash Tesla.... you cannot argue Tesla cars will continue to sell faster than they can build.
    Production has exceeded sales for three quarters in a row and Tesla is slashing prices in key markets like the US and China to try to stimulate demand. Your observation might have been correct in 2018 but not so much anymore.

    BYD is already outselling Tesla is China and other OEMs are aggressively competing in the US and Europe.

    Exactly as some on here predicted all along.

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