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Temperature in Penang and Hong Kong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shri
    I have a feeling you might see us there in a bit... did you move the dog(s)?
    We moved the two dogs using Dr Jerry:- https://www.petexportvet.com. Good service and price, and unlike the other competitor is run by a qualified vet which is a definate plus.

    Thankfully quarantine was only a week as the kennels are very hot, and my two did not like that at all, but the staff were great.

    While I am at it a big shout out to https://www.ags-globalsolutions.com/en/ who moved us without breaking so much as a single glass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cwbguy
    Just been in Penang now for two months and, unlike @imparanoic, I much prefer the weather, and general living, here.

    At least the mornings and evenings cool down nicely to low 20's with little humidity, which was a killer for me in HK.

    Pretty much everything outside, like stalls and wet market, is finished by lunchtime, and people retire till around 6pm, when life springs back. During the brutal hours the malls, which are far superior to the ones in HK , offer the best shopping .

    There are a few days that are brutal, generally the cloudy with no breeze days, but most are quite doable as long as you do not join the Mad Dogs and Englishmen theme and go out in the midday sun.

    Food is generally a fraction of HK prices, and the supermarkets put Wellcome and P&s to shame. Booze is heavily taxed but around HK prices for the good stuff, Bombay etc, but the local hooch is pretty drinkable.

    Taxis, vis GRAB, are readily available, and cheap.

    May be worth a trip out here just to check it out.
    Penang may be great and better than HK overall, but I find it hard to believe the weather to be a strong selling point. With only one season all year round and as you point out yourself between lunch time and 6pm is unbearable to step outside. If you've only been there 2 months you are still in your honeymoon, lets get your thoughts again after 5-10 years of the same weather day in and day out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cwbguy
    We moved the two dogs using Dr Jerry:- https://www.petexportvet.com. Good service and price, and unlike the other competitor is run by a qualified vet which is a definate plus.

    Thankfully quarantine was only a week as the kennels are very hot, and my two did not like that at all, but the staff were great.

    While I am at it a big shout out to https://www.ags-globalsolutions.com/en/ who moved us without breaking so much as a single glass.
    Any way around the quarantine? Only a week but must be tough on the dogs. Not sure what they'd be looking for in a week?

    Thank you for sharing the experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiona in HKG
    Any way around the quarantine? Only a week but must be tough on the dogs. Not sure what they'd be looking for in a week?

    Thank you for sharing the experience
    It is possible to apply for home quarantine, but in practice it is very rarely given.

    We applied in HK, and it was refused, and we applied again after 2 days in Penang, also refused. This is for a blind 11 yo dog whose rear legs were giving out on her (thankfully recovered now). Even the kennel staff said it was a total waste of time and money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MABinPengChau
    I owned both a house (including the land) and a flat in Japan. Yes, it gets hot in August, in Tokyo, June and July mostly not very hot due to the rainy season.

    Attractive areas- Sendai, cooler than Tokyo, some tourism (granted, post 2011 not sure how that got affected).

    Kobe is a great area, a little hotter but a small international community.

    I lived in a hilly area an hour outside Tokyo (Takao), my flat cost 90k US for 700 square feet 3 bedroom and 300 square foot garden. Old house was about 70k US.
    It was cooler by a couple of degrees from downtown Tokyo and the air was lovely as I got off the train each evening and rode my bike home...

    I was on a work visa with a Japanese patent firm, if you get in on ANY visa, can change employers (or not work) for the remainder of the three-year visa (those were the rules when I was there, not sure if they changed). So, for example, could go in on an English-teaching job then run your Internet business or whatever on the side, perfectly legal. Including quitting said job and working online.

    The further you are from Tokyo, the more Japanese you need to know- I was about the only foreigner in my town apart from some Mormon missionaries.
    Did you make any money when you sold those places? It's tempting to own something like that and never worry about landlords. But I just saw some news that vacancy rates now in Japan are multi year high, if it doesn't make sense financially, I would rather just rent forever.

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    Broke even which was good enough so lived rent free for a bit.


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    Broken even for how long of a hold and you are talking normal nominal dollars right?


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    Held about 3 years, again it was a "lifestyle choice" (place that allows cats, ground floor, cats had a garden) more than an investment- I also was planning to stay longer but the aftermath of 2008 put an end to that...so I sold in 2009 which was not a great year, worldwide...
    But, truly, property NEVER appreciates in Japan- only the land, which you don't get in a condo. The houses last about as long as the mortgage and then may be torn down and start over. After the mortgage they are worth very little, only the land. Condos are also often torn down and start over but a little longer, maybe 40-50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdw
    Penang may be great and better than HK overall, but I find it hard to believe the weather to be a strong selling point. With only one season all year round and as you point out yourself between lunch time and 6pm is unbearable to step outside. If you've only been there 2 months you are still in your honeymoon, lets get your thoughts again after 5-10 years of the same weather day in and day out
    I also found HK pretty unbearable in the summer between those hours, and rarely ventured out in the afternoon, so nothing new here. The advantage of Pen. is the cooling down in the evenings which HK didn't have. Right now there is a lovely breeze going through the flat with a temp around 26/27 deg.

    Trust me the honeymoon was over a long time ago, and the rose tinted specs firmly in the recycle bin. I have been coming here. Ipoh, Malaca and KL for 23 years on and off visiting the wife's rellies and am well aware of the bad as well as good points. If you would like a heated rant on admin/flat management companies/bureaucracy/traffic management/online deliveries/Lazarda/general pen pushing jobsworths and immigration plse ask.

    Generally life is pretty easy. English is widely spoken, and the people friendly. There are world class doctors,dentists(all UK trained) and hospitals within a few minutes drive. If you are not looking for wild nightlife,maybe just a few good bars and lots of resteraunts, Penang is certainly a place to consider. Some will love it, others not so much.

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    I went to Penang for a quick business trip and even though it was only for 2 days, I quite liked it especially the food stalls with the delicious and cheap foods.

    i know some local HK Chinese friends that bought apartments there and moved there and my God sister is looking to buy and move there as well. I wouldnt mind moving there either, I like the heat so it doesnt bother me, not looking forward to the cold in UK


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