Hi everyone, I am also BBC, I understand how everyone feels, my cantonese is moderately fluent ( only learned from 16, Mother dialogue is Hakka), however, though, I never attend any chinese classes, as they practice and persistant counts as I pretty much can read ( and to a certain extent write) chinese ( though newspapers are pretty hard, as they use such formal language)if you got desire and dedication, then anything is possible, use any possible methods, listening to canto ballad ( though i don't do that more) watching TV dramas, using a electronic translator, evem reading the a certain article from the free newspaper - the standard, you will get there eventually, that if you really want to!!