good headhunters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnowItAll:
    Truth is ... one needs a good doctor, a good lawyer, a good accountant and a good headhunter these days -- folks you can trust and rely on to give you honest advice.
    Hear, hear. May I also include one more - a good spouse. A good spouse will work wonders!

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    i agree for some industries.
    the industry i am in where musical chair of jobs is the norm and 95% of job recruitment are done thru HH, then i think the value of a good HH is overblown.

    of cos i know of some really good ones that i can communicate well and discuss about issues well, but end of the day its the person himself that needs to know the market better... no HH wld have that kind of indepth knowledge as compared to the staff and whatever anyone says, take it with a pinch of salt.

    its everyone for him/herself in this world.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrNiceHk:
    I have been involved in recruitment and later executive search for over 13 years. I can tell you with complete honestly a good head hunter can be incredibly advantageous to not only your job hunting exercise but also your career. Like all industries recruitment and executive search has its fair share of cowboys, truth be told quite lot of them actually, but there are genuine talented professionals out there.

    Personally I take a very ethical, honest and highly professional approach to what I do and how my firm carries out engagements. I realize that as a professional we are dealing with critical issues not only for our clients but also for my candidates. Moving from one company to another is a very big undertaken and could have serious adverse effects for all concerned if it is not the right move.

    I have extremely close relationships with my clients, so much so I tell them what they want in potential hires. I work mainly on a retained basis or the very least exclusively. My clients take my recommendations very seriously. Finding talented people is no cake walk and once you do managing the process of moving them from company a to company b is riddled with potential preverbal banana skins.

    I normally don?t comment on threads like these because I seen so many of them over the years and mainly with negative connotations. But finding a good head hunter can be one of the most important relationships you will ever develop. I have lost count the amount of times I have doubled some of my candidates salaries although its not all about the money real career development or a great company with strong products are just as important. We are not all in this business for the money or for our clients.

    Personally I enjoy working with people, I enjoy helping people out and sincerely get a kick out of putting good people into good companies. My advice always be talking to head hunters / recruiters, for every 10 idiots you come across there will be 2 diamonds in the rough who potentially can really help you out.

    As luck may have it, I am starting to move into the Advertising industry myself and have met a few of the GM;s of the Large firms. I am particularly interested in talking to people involved in Digital Media, regardless of what you do drop me a line I would be more than happy to offer you some advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeier:
    i agree for some industries.
    the industry i am in where musical chair of jobs is the norm and 95% of job recruitment are done thru HH, then i think the value of a good HH is overblown.

    of cos i know of some really good ones that i can communicate well and discuss about issues well, but end of the day its the person himself that needs to know the market better... no HH wld have that kind of indepth knowledge as compared to the staff and whatever anyone says, take it with a pinch of salt.

    its everyone for him/herself in this world.
    What industry are you in may I ask ?

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    8-) u will know if u catch me over a beer..

    anyway, just 1 example of how ironical things can be.
    i was looking at 2 positions lately. one, a very good HH that is reasonably knowledgable in the field, did a very good job in talking to both side..

    the other, a HH that is super irritating and all of my friends decided to boycott her ... i told the employing company to call me directly instead of going thru the HH. she was totally acting like a postbox when i needed one.

    at the end, i got both the offers, and i had to take the latter. despite not liking the HH and not wanting her to make that chunk of money out of my placement.

    so.. alot is about luck.. and about being relentless in throwing CVs around...


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    Mate if you think its all about luck and throwing CVs around you are at the wrong end of the Market and definitely need a good head hunter, that or you are a trader, were most headhunters fear to thread as it really is musical throw a CV around chairs.

    I could argue the toss all day but it really boils down to finding a good partner you can trust and has your best interest at heart, as MrKnowitall quite rightly pointed out everyone needs a good lawyer, accountant, doctor, dentist, headhunter etc etc

    Its about the relationship you form with these people and it works both ways

    So when are we having that beer? I have a opportunity you might be interested in : )


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    well, you know, in certain market, some positions, there are just that many people in the region qualified to do it. so the HH's job is more to convince these people to move onto the empty chair than anything else.

    and no, trader jobs are more the hot potato type with tempermental guys.. they are not the most musically chaired guys...


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    Quote Originally Posted by freeier:
    and no, trader jobs are more the hot potato type with tempermental guys.. they are not the most musically chaired guys...
    unless you work for abn amro who are about to make 34000 people redundant if the rbs sale goes through!

    the guys in the london office round by me are seriously worried.

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    I´m in Information Technology sector, coming from overseas (Europe) and looking for a job in Hong Kong. As the others are saying it´s not easy to find a good HH / recruiting firm.
    Any suggestions for capable HH / recruiting firm in HK i can contact?

    Many thanks in advance!