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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by angeluscomplex:
    I live with my parents, I've had to work a day off at no notice because some bitch refused to turn up and told no one, I've spent months with almost no days off because of staff shortage.
    For what it's worth, I've had no customer complaints about my manners in over a year of working where I do.

    I think it's because they're brought up to expect people to fall in line with them, aka. have maids to do their bidding, grow up entitled etc.
    Its a lack of respect that has been normalized. There's a phrase in cantonese "let off aeroplane" which is basically standing someone up, or ghosting on an appointment. It had never happened to me in UK, but when I came to HK, i was so shocked at how prevalent it was.

    And people rarely got angry about it. They would still invite that person the next time or remain friends. The person who ghosted the first time, would just rock up as though nothing had happened.

    This lack of consequences just encourages this behaviour.
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  2. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK/HKboy:
    Its a lack of respect that has been normalized. There's a phrase in cantonese "let off aeroplane" which is basically standing someone up, or ghosting on an appointment. It had never happened to me in UK, but when I came to HK, i was so shocked at how prevalent it was.

    And people rarely got angry about it. They would still invite that person the next time or remain friends. The person who ghosted the first time, would just rock up as though nothing had happened.

    This lack of consequences just encourages this behaviour.
    This is just my experience as I am no expert. I find that people here will accept an invitation when asked but will cancel later usually just prior to the engagement citing some inconvenience. Seems this is normal? I gather they had no intention in accepting but by saying yes puts the issue at rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonastainine:
    This is just my experience as I am no expert. I find that people here will accept an invitation when asked but will cancel later usually just prior to the engagement citing some inconvenience. Seems this is normal? I gather they had no intention in accepting but by saying yes puts the issue at rest.
    I'm actually fine with this because they have the courtesy to inform me (I can then make alternative plans). What annoys me, and I think what everyone meant before, is when they just don't show up and don't say anything, and usually don't answer their phone when you call.

    Being decent humans, we would naturally wait a bit longer in case they are late, or perhaps something happened causing a delay. If they are not intending to come anyway, it just wastes our time, which is disrespectful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK/HKboy:
    I'm actually fine with this because they have the courtesy to inform me (I can then make alternative plans). What annoys me, and I think what everyone meant before, is when they just don't show up and don't say anything, and usually don't answer their phone when you call.

    Being decent humans, we would naturally wait a bit longer in case they are late, or perhaps something happened causing a delay. If they are not intending to come anyway, it just wastes our time, which is disrespectful.
    I'm not fine with any of it, just grow a spine, and learn a polite way to decline rather than lying and fucking other people about in the process.
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    So just a quick update: he was fired. Finally! His department head told him he could work from home and he had to log in his hours, which he failed to do. Then he showed up to the office one day to "work" so we took that opportunity to fire him. Good riddance!


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