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    Education Qualification Help!

    Hi all,
    I'm 25 years old and moved from the UK to Hong Kong about five months ago. I have been working in a private tuition centre, which is fine, but I don't really want to work here long-term because of how little holiday there is and just how unpredictable the scheduling can be. My dream would be to work in an international school here, as I've taught IB and IGCSE students here and have by far the most energy when I'm teaching at those levels.

    I have two questions:
    1. Will international schools accept a teaching qualification from Hong Kong (e.g. from the Education University of Hong Kong or HKU)? I have a BA in English from Oxford and a TEFL, but I know I would need to go back to university to get my PGCE.

    2. For the two years' teaching experience, does that need to be in my home country, or would teaching experience here suffice?

    I guess the big problem underpinning all of this is that I have a girlfriend here whom I really like and don't want to abandon if I can help it. I genuinely enjoy living here, but I don't want to work in a private tuition centre forever - they can be kinda sweatshoppy. Any advice would be highly appreciated as I feel pretty lost and anxious about the future at the moment.


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    Take your certs and a CV to an International School and ask them. Now is a good time. And stop worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazmoBrittonic:
    Hi all,
    I'm 25 years old and moved from the UK to Hong Kong about five months ago. I have been working in a private tuition centre, which is fine, but I don't really want to work here long-term because of how little holiday there is and just how unpredictable the scheduling can be. My dream would be to work in an international school here, as I've taught IB and IGCSE students here and have by far the most energy when I'm teaching at those levels.

    I have two questions:
    1. Will international schools accept a teaching qualification from Hong Kong (e.g. from the Education University of Hong Kong or HKU)? I have a BA in English from Oxford and a TEFL, but I know I would need to go back to university to get my PGCE.

    2. For the two years' teaching experience, does that need to be in my home country, or would teaching experience here suffice?

    I guess the big problem underpinning all of this is that I have a girlfriend here whom I really like and don't want to abandon if I can help it. I genuinely enjoy living here, but I don't want to work in a private tuition centre forever - they can be kinda sweatshoppy. Any advice would be highly appreciated as I feel pretty lost and anxious about the future at the moment.
    You can take the PGCE from universities like Sunderland in Hong Kong or the PGDE and either of those will be fine to work in international schools. You can do your practicum in an international school locally and there's a possibility to get hired. If that is your goal, you can try looking for positions as an EA and then potentially do some supply and eventually if you are good, you should be able to find a job in a school in Hong Kong. It's a process. The other option once you have your education credentials is to get a job in less reputable or lower paid school around the region in places like China, SE Asia, India or the Middle East and then try to come back.

    There are schools locally and outside that are interested in hiring inexperienced teachers because they are cheaper.
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    What level are you willing to teach?

    Tuition centre holidays are always going to be awful. Once you are in a school, you will get normal working hours with great holidays. With your educational qualifications, you have a chance but need to be aggressive when applying.

    Drop me a PM with your whatsapp. I am a teacher too!

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    Thanks for replying!

    Sorry if these questions sound stupid. I just want to clarify a few things.
    You can take a University of Sunderland PGCE online? And schools here accept that? I've seen suggestions on other forums that schools look down on online-only courses.

    And you're saying it's possible to get that two years' experience working in the international school directly?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazmoBrittonic:
    Thanks for replying!

    Sorry if these questions sound stupid. I just want to clarify a few things.
    You can take a University of Sunderland PGCE online? And schools here accept that? I've seen suggestions on other forums that schools look down on online-only courses.

    And you're saying it's possible to get that two years' experience working in the international school directly?
    Yes I know people that are currently working as teachers that took PGCEs and were hired after their practicum. Right place and right time during and right after COVID and EAs that are working in schools while doing their PGCEs. I expect one of them will likely be hired when she is done because she has been at the school for several years. I wouldn't expect to be hired at a decent international school without experience unless you have put in face time there subbing as an EA and/or doing your practicum. You need good references which can be acquired that way. Often, who you know is far more important than where you studied so making contacts and networking is very important.

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    Some schools will hire you with no PGCE as long as you commit to get it in the next couple of years.
    I don’t know who told you the online PGCE is looked down on (as long as it has a practicum, it’s accepted in HK as a valid teaching certification). I got mine with Sunderland and I’ve never had any issues.


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    No certificate needed especially true if the teacher is from famous uni like HKU and others.

    Local schools' teachers mostly have PGCE from local unis. There is more acceptance problem with online degrees than certificates.

    Quote Originally Posted by mexmon:
    Some schools will hire you with no PGCE as long as you commit to get it in the next couple of years.
    I don’t know who told you the online PGCE is looked down on (as long as it has a practicum, it’s accepted in HK as a valid teaching certification). I got mine with Sunderland and I’ve never had any issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazmoBrittonic:
    Thanks for replying!

    Sorry if these questions sound stupid. I just want to clarify a few things.
    You can take a University of Sunderland PGCE online? And schools here accept that? I've seen suggestions on other forums that schools look down on online-only courses.

    And you're saying it's possible to get that two years' experience working in the international school directly?
    Short-term, some places take anything that ticks the boxes. Long-term one should go for the best option for career development.

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    In relation to your original post, I have 2 friends who both have degrees & TEFL (but not PGCE) and have jobs in international schools earning 50k per month each.

    You can even get on the NET scheme without a PGCE and the salary (including housing) goes from 60-100k per month (although I think it's capped without the PGCE element).

    If you don't have a proper TEFL (certTESOL or CELTA etc.) Then I'd recommend doing one