I've HAD IT with Hong Kong... Advice? Wanna move to Singapore.

[ray98]

I think that a physics field trip might be more relevant. We have equipment all over Hong Kong that shows heavy air pollution on any scale you wish to measure it on.

You are perfectly at liberty to claim that there is a little pocket of pollution around the station in your area, and everywhere else is absolutely fine - it it just the site the equipment is mounted at....

Nope, biology field trip in the Irwell valley when I was doing my GCSE, got taught how to statically interpret the plant specie profile of the area.

Going by your logic, a lot of auditors would be unemployed if the requirements were just to test one transaction to form an overall opinion!

[jgl]

It's a bit of a catch 22 isn't it? You don't like the pollution, you plug in a machine that makes your immediate situation better, but that sucks up electricity that the power plants in China have to produce. And to even have that purifiers, it has to be made in a factory (in China). It's always seemed a bit ironic to me that Westerners come to HK, become disgusted at the pollution and want to get away from it, but it's, in a large part, the Western lifestyle and all the stuff we have that's made this air pollution mess in the first place..... Buying and running more appliances makes the overall situation worse, not better. (Please, if someone has some data on this, correct me if I'm mistaken...)

Not so much... the energy consumption of your standard Japanese-branded air purifier is quite low. My large ones consume somewhere between 20-30W (off memory, haven't measured them since I bought them) so they are better than running lighting, and a small fraction of what we chew up for air conditioning. Or a quarter of what a fairly typical PC consumes.

However if you're running an IQAir, they do chew up a lot more power- maybe a quarter or even half of what a window mounted AC consumes. Which I think is one of several good reasons not to get an IQAir.

Point taken about buying more 'stuff' (though mine happen to be made in Japan), but most of us consider air conditioners invaluable in HK. Air purifiers last practically forever (they're basically good quality fans, the consumable portion is small and only needs replacement every five or so years), so I wouldn't class them as disposable. In fact, I suspect they should far outlast something like wall mounted air conditioners and they would have much lower resource requirements for production as well as operation.

[HK_Katherine]

Well this thread has totally deviated its course-- I just wanted some advice on Singapore immigration laws



I just want to know how we can move to the Pore! It would be really easy due to my husband's job as a pilot. The complicated part is the visa process, if the possibility exists for a US family with permanent employment with a HK company that allows living anywhere.

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Why did you expect a Hong Kong forum to have great insight into moving to Singapore? Why not just find a Singapore forum!

Or look at other places closer to HK - Philippines - for example, would be less of a commute and has perfectly good air. And hills. And cheap accommodation and food. But more guns (but I guess if you are 'merican that's not a problem). And plenty of people move there so it must be relatively easy (or easy to bribe the right person anyway).

[Char Siu King]

I wouldn't exactly have no qualms about raising children in Singapore either. Limited rights, extensive censorship, abysmal treatment of migrant workers, death penalty by hanging, etc. Fun for the whole family! The air quality can get quite poor as well, especially during Indo forest fires.

[jgl]

Dammnit HK_Katherine, why are you trying to get this discussion back on topic?

[LaowaiLulu]

[QUOTE=HK_Katherine;3076393]Why did you expect a Hong Kong forum to have great insight into moving to Singapore? Why not just find a Singapore forum!

Because this is the MOVING OUT OF HK section.... And MAYBE, just maybe someone went through the same thing and successfully moved out to Singapore in my situation.

Not going to Philippines. I want to go somewhere BETTER than here, and the only thing better in Philliphines is the air, really. The rest is worse -way worse.

About your "if you are a 'merican that's not a problem..." well. I'm not going to bite

I hope that answers your question.....

[Mat]

No, you dont, but it helps A LOT.

Really?

I like trails and beaches and I live in a estate.

Why, cos I get the best of both world - covenience, safety, transport access, swimming pool, tennis and so on from the estate and 2mn walk (literally) to the beach and the trails.

[TheBrit]

I would ask your husband to discuss this with his HR department. They'll need to be involved in any move, and probably have the means to sponsor you to live in Singapore/

[LaowaiLulu]

I would ask your husband to discuss this with his HR department. They'll need to be involved in any move, and probably have the means to sponsor you to live in Singapore/

I'll look into this. Thanks!

[LaowaiLulu]

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I would LOVE TO! The commute to HK would be more difficult, though. I'm not sure the company here would cooperate. There are less flights and they take longer (9 hours!!! SIN is only 3.5 hours away).

Now, if he could get a job flying over there... But we heard it's a very tight market.

Singapore has a very attractive perk... Mandarin is widely used and my daughter would grow up speaking it, which would be a great asset for her. She already speaks 2 languages (English and Spanish... Surprise Katherine, I'm not "'merican" ).

But yeah, we would take Australia/NZ in a heartbeat