View Poll Results: Stay or Leave Hong Kong

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  • Planning to leave in 1-2 years

    74 34.10%
  • Planning to leave in 3-5 years

    42 19.35%
  • No plan at the moment

    74 34.10%
  • HK is my Home, will stay forever

    27 12.44%
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[Poll] Stay or Leave Hong Kong

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  1. #221

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    The plan to move to the UK next year is definitely in the SHITTER
    Will have to wait for the Economy to get better.


  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckster007:
    The plan to move to the UK next year is definitely in the SHITTER
    Will have to wait for the Economy to get better.
    2032 then.

  3. #223
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    Singapore actually just recently relaxed many border restrictions. It sounds much easier to get into than HK for arrival from much of the Asia-Pacific region:

    https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/healt...l-restrictions

    Singapore's lockdowns initially failed to account for its crowded migrant worker dorms, much like HK failed to account for conditions for domestic servants in between visas. But unlike Singapore, these were smaller and less permanent facilities in HK, and thus posed fewer problems. Hence the ongoing case disparity, most likely.

  4. #224

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolaas20:
    No plan at the moment for me. No choice. Hopefully won't lose my job because I definitely don't wanna go back where I came from.
    I’m curious too, where are you from that was so bad ?
    Last edited by Skyhook; 24-08-2020 at 05:39 AM.

  5. #225

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsianXpat0:
    but you do get free elections, which may or may not influence governance and responsiveness...

    Some element of a mandate there, which helps quell tempers as well, at least in an Asian context.

    Plus, what direction is HK moving in if you look at all the newsrooms?

    Having said that, there are certainly arguments for more freedom of expression being desirable in Singapore too.
    Not sure what 'free election' you're referring to, that's available in SG but not in HK.

    There's now a pre screening before you can stand for election in Hk, but you can still vote even if you're in jail.

    In SG, if you're a 'national security ' threat, you're probably in jail already, and no chance to stand for election anyway.

  6. #226

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    Quote Originally Posted by SZ1:
    Not sure what 'free election' you're referring to, that's available in SG but not in HK.

    There's now a pre screening before you can stand for election in Hk, but you can still vote even if you're in jail.

    In SG, if you're a 'national security ' threat, you're probably in jail already, and no chance to stand for election anyway.
    The way I view this is that if people wanted to work/move to Singapore they’d have done so before coming to HK. NSL may Be with us but HK is still a comparatively freer and certainly a whole lot less sterile.

    I would advocate that anyone moving from HK to Singapore would be doing it purely because the job has moved there rather than HK has turned into a police/government state. It hasn’t yet but it’s certainly a lot closer than it was 12 months ago.

    An interesting question would be HK, SG or back to where you came from if you had the choice of all 3. For me HK is still streets ahead. Then again I don’t have a young family here in need of an education. That also changes the goalposts and I can see why families would choose SG, just the same as a couple of people on here are talking about finding UK school spots.

    That doesn’t mean I don’t have an exit strategy but I’m in the fortunate position of having a global role (currently APAC focussed) and could relate with work though, depending on where, not full tax equalisation. Net id still be marginally financially better off in UK.

    Korea remains a target which would also be work. Philippines remains a retirement target. El Nido before it turns into Boracay would be nice. Last time I posted my thoughts Thailand was in the running. To some extent that’s still true but I can’t see them ever shaking off the political and military uncertainty. Going for a holiday is one thing. Living there quite another. To counterbalance that I have a couple of friends and a relation living in Thailand none of which are currently concerned.

    No right or wrong answers to this question. Just as my views on SG vs HO are my views others may see it completely differently
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  7. #227

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    Quote Originally Posted by SZ1:
    Not sure what 'free election' you're referring to, that's available in SG but not in HK.

    There's now a pre screening before you can stand for election in Hk, but you can still vote even if you're in jail.

    In SG, if you're a 'national security ' threat, you're probably in jail already, and no chance to stand for election anyway.
    I don't know if you are trolling or what. HK: a government that doesn't give a fuck about the people, which has created land scarcities and where people upon graduation (to give an example) need 100% of their salary to rent a 300 sq. ft. flat. A place where roughly 20% of its young people can go to university, and where university fees are about 40% of the salary of the poorest 40% of the population. And that was before the NSL where everybody can be arrested and disappear in a Chinese prison for no reason.

    V. Singapore, a government that has built affordable housing for its people (as a student in Singapore I was living in a bigger flat than as a millionaire in HK), where upon graduation people can rent a decent flat. A place where 40% of the students go to university, where education is miles better, miles cheaper. The GDP per capita of Singapore is 40% higher that of HK.

    Yes, neither country has much political freedom, but the Singapore government knows that it can be voted out, so does policies to improve people's lives. The HK government is controlled by developers, interest groups, and the Chinese government, and as everybody knows it doesn't give a fuck about the people because it can't be voted out.
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  8. #228

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhook:
    I’m curious too, where are you from that was so bad ?
    And @Hkemail888,

    From the "rainbow nation" down in Effrika.

    Beautiful place with many pro's and so much potential, but all the corruption, crime, political and racial problems make it just not worth it. I don't see a future there. The majority of people I know there would also leave if they had the chance.

  9. #229

    Out of quarantine in Taipei, so far so good, living in a new section of a suburb in New Taipei city (Linkou), gorgeous train across the street, always a seat) - it's the airport express line so posh seats on express trains, all for HK 20 dollars. Huge box stores everywhere, biggest Ikea I have ever been in, including the US. Super posh 3BD 2BA for about 10,000 HKD brand new. Separate garage just for bicycles and scooters, other entrance and different floors for cars. MRT so clean and great coverage, bus trips are about 4HKD can go far. Pretty easy life so far, great food super cheap. Friendly, helpful people...only downside so far has been a bad haircut- a guy recommended by expats but cut my hair crazy short- upside is no need for a haircut for at least 4 months...

    Bought a new emotional support hamster after the bad haircut (pre-ordered posh cage). Was going to be Fei Bo 2 but we are going with Mei Mei, hope it's a girl.

    I could get used to this...but will never take it for granted...

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  10. #230

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    Quote Originally Posted by MABinPengChau:
    Out of quarantine in Taipei, so far so good, living in a new section of a suburb in New Taipei city (Linkou), gorgeous train across the street, always a seat) - it's the airport express line so posh seats on express trains, all for HK 20 dollars. Huge box stores everywhere, biggest Ikea I have ever been in, including the US. Super posh 3BD 2BA for about 10,000 HKD brand new. Separate garage just for bicycles and scooters, other entrance and different floors for cars. MRT so clean and great coverage, bus trips are about 4HKD can go far. Pretty easy life so far, great food super cheap. Friendly, helpful people...only downside so far has been a bad haircut- a guy recommended by expats but cut my hair crazy short- upside is no need for a haircut for at least 4 months...

    Bought a new emotional support hamster after the bad haircut (pre-ordered posh cage). Was going to be Fei Bo 2 but we are going with Mei Mei, hope it's a girl.

    I could get used to this...but will never take it for granted...
    Sounds great. Congratulations on the move.
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