View Poll Results: Stay or Leave Hong Kong

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  • Planning to leave in 1-2 years

    74 34.26%
  • Planning to leave in 3-5 years

    42 19.44%
  • No plan at the moment

    73 33.80%
  • HK is my Home, will stay forever

    27 12.50%
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[Poll] Stay or Leave Hong Kong

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  1. #231

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolaas20:
    And @Hkemail888,

    From the "rainbow nation" down in Effrika.

    Beautiful place with many pro's and so much potential, but all the corruption, crime, political and racial problems make it just not worth it. I don't see a future there. The majority of people I know there would also leave if they had the chance.
    Thanks for getting back to us. I know a number of Sethers here in Brisbane, which have had a variety of stories to tell, one being the man who delivers my office toner cartridges for all our printers, which I see every couple of months and fully understand why these families have uptilts and moved their family's here.

    I think Australia might be one of the more popular countries to move to for South Africans, as the geography/climate etc is quite similar to South Efrica. There are lots living here in Brisbane, which I suppose would be climatically/geographically very similar to Cape Town.

    So o.k, I fully understand why you typed what you did previously, knowing what I have been told.
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  2. #232

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyhook:
    Thanks for getting back to us. I know a number of Sethers here in Brisbane, which have had a variety of stories to tell, one being the man who delivers my office toner cartridges for all our printers, which I see every couple of months and fully understand why these families have uptilts and moved their family's here.

    I think Australia might be one of the more popular countries to move to for South Africans, as the geography/climate etc is quite similar to South Efrica. There are lots living here in Brisbane, which I suppose would be climatically/geographically very similar to Cape Town.

    So o.k, I fully understand why you typed what you did previously, knowing what I have been told.
    Yip, Aus and NZ are probably the most popular destinations for Saffers now.

  3. #233

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    Quote Originally Posted by MABinPengChau:
    Out of quarantine in Taipei, so far so good, living in a new section of a suburb in New Taipei city (Linkou), gorgeous train across the street, always a seat) - it's the airport express line so posh seats on express trains, all for HK 20 dollars. Huge box stores everywhere, biggest Ikea I have ever been in, including the US. Super posh 3BD 2BA for about 10,000 HKD brand new. Separate garage just for bicycles and scooters, other entrance and different floors for cars. MRT so clean and great coverage, bus trips are about 4HKD can go far. Pretty easy life so far, great food super cheap. Friendly, helpful people...only downside so far has been a bad haircut- a guy recommended by expats but cut my hair crazy short- upside is no need for a haircut for at least 4 months...

    Bought a new emotional support hamster after the bad haircut (pre-ordered posh cage). Was going to be Fei Bo 2 but we are going with Mei Mei, hope it's a girl.

    I could get used to this...but will never take it for granted...
    Maybe you can enlighten us sometime as to the ins and outs / ease or difficulty in getting a work visa there.

  4. #234

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eva C:
    Maybe you can enlighten us sometime as to the ins and outs / ease or difficulty in getting a work visa there.
    So we just opened a company there and hired me...some other people are officers of said company...there are also some visas for Hong Kong people...but not sure if you need to be ethnically Chinese or not...so I make the same money I did in Hong Kong and it goes 3 or 4 times as far...business is good for now but I am not optimistic about the future...when the economy completely tanks, people are not busy applying for patents...make hay while the sun shines as they say...
    The man who cut my hair said many of his expat clients had already left...you definitely do not see the number of expats that you see in Hong Kong...
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  5. #235

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_1122:
    I don't know if you are trolling or what. HK: a government that doesn't give a fuck about the people, which has created land scarcities and where people upon graduation (to give an example) need 100% of their salary to rent a 300 sq. ft. flat. A place where roughly 20% of its young people can go to university, and where university fees are about 40% of the salary of the poorest 40% of the population. And that was before the NSL where everybody can be arrested and disappear in a Chinese prison for no reason.

    V. Singapore, a government that has built affordable housing for its people (as a student in Singapore I was living in a bigger flat than as a millionaire in HK), where upon graduation people can rent a decent flat. A place where 40% of the students go to university, where education is miles better, miles cheaper. The GDP per capita of Singapore is 40% higher that of HK.

    Yes, neither country has much political freedom, but the Singapore government knows that it can be voted out, so does policies to improve people's lives. The HK government is controlled by developers, interest groups, and the Chinese government, and as everybody knows it doesn't give a fuck about the people because it can't be voted out.
    Don't get me wrong. I've worked in Singapore for a few years, that was still in Goh Chok Tong era, and I like the place. My wife's family used to live in there too, and some of her siblings did their high school, uni's there.
    They have all moved on and now having their families in HK. We still connect with friends in SG, so know a bit of life in there too. I just wanted to raise the point that HK is still having a free society, even when compared to SG.

    I can see why people are discontented with their governments, but claiming the HK govt doesn't give a fuck to the people is really too strong which I cannot agree. I'd say both HK/SG governments are run by civil servants. Both govts are not monarchy, not military, not from a special class, not politicians, and best of all not corrupted. From top to bottom are people just like you and I, trying to do a job for a salary.

    The problem you highlighted about HK property prices are common among all big cities, and SG has done a good job in this area. However I don't hear much complaints in HK about poor students not being able to attend higher education due to high cost.
    SG govt excels in their efficiency in making bolder decisions and faster implementations (much like China) but not everyone likes it this way, whereas HK will appear more bureaucratic, but probably more consultative with people, some of these are 'interest groups' such as businesses and politicians like you mentioned. But that's two sides of a coin, and you cannot win everything in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SZ1:
    I can see why people are discontented with their governments, but claiming the HK govt doesn't give a fuck to the people is really too strong which I cannot agree.
    Really? I would have thought this point was unarguable, the HK Governments sole wish now is to please Beijing, not the HK population.
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  8. #238

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeByeEngland:
    And my nephew working as an architect in London for more than 10 years has been complaining he cannot afford an apartment there, and still pushing for his parents for more money to help him get his first unit.
    I've been telling him for a few years to start small, and climb the ladder step by step, like how we did it many years ago. He's just too picky with his choices. And this cash rush from HK together with the stamp duty relief will help Boris Johnson to stabilize the property price softened by Brexit.

  9. #239

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    Really? I would have thought this point was unarguable, the HK Governments sole wish now is to please Beijing, not the HK population.
    Can't argue that Beijing is the top priority here. There are some rich Hong Kongers that the government cares about, but if Beijing told Carrie Lam to lock them up and take their money (another cultural revolution?)... she would do it without question.
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  10. #240

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    Quote Originally Posted by SZ1:
    I can see why people are discontented with their governments, but claiming the HK govt doesn't give a fuck to the people is really too strong which I cannot agree. I'd say both HK/SG governments are run by civil servants. Both govts are not monarchy, not military, not from a special class, not politicians, and best of all not corrupted. From top to bottom are people just like you and I, trying to do a job for a salary.
    Why are you still talking as if HK rules itself?

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