Leaving HK for the kids...

[justjoe86]

Maybe the phrase "paved with gold" isn't the best term, I didn't mean that in the literal sense of course, but my point is not stupid at all, if "home" is really so much better, why ever leave it? I just get a little ticked off whenever people say "home" is so much better than where they are now, hey, nobody is stopping them from moving back.

And for the record, I think HK has MANY problems, which I have pointed out in the past repeatedly (i.e. pollution, rudeness, tiny and unaffordable housing etc), but I don't complain about that endlessly and say I wish I was elsewhere. I made my choice to be here, I will live with both its good and bad parts. Maybe some people on here need to remember that aspect of expat living.

Maybe because getting more than one perspective on life is always a good idea. I've learnt a lot having lived in both the UK and HK (about the good and bad aspects of both), have no regrets, but will likely move back to the UK one day.

How would you even know which is better if you didn't try both?

If you think of the world and your options as static rather than dynamic your mind is.. erm.. paved with shit?

[Coolboy]

Maybe because getting more than one perspective on life is always a good idea. I've learnt a lot having lived in both the UK and HK (about the good and bad aspects of both), have no regrets, but will likely move back to the UK one day.

How would you even know which is better if you didn't try both?

If you think of the world and your options as static rather than dynamic your mind is.. erm.. paved with shit?

Hmmm...tell me where exactly I said one should not get more than one perspective in life? And where on earth did I say the world is static? I'm just tired of the same old arrogant "home-is-so-much-better" schtick. Belittling the place where an expat is currently at seems insulting and a poor excuse for admitting they made a mistake for moving there. So I maybe I'm not the one full of shit?

[justjoe86]

Hmmm...tell me where exactly I said one should not get more than one perspective in life?

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Then why come to HK in the first place if the UK is paved with gold, why ever leave it?

If you never leave it, you don't get more than one perspective....

And where on earth did I say the world is static?

.... and that's the definition of static.

[Coolboy]

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And where in that sentence did I say one should not get a different perspective in life? I was criticizing those expats who adopt a superior and haughty attitude to their overseas place thinking home is so much better. They are the ones who aren't willing to get a different perspective on life.

Their place of residence may have changed, but their mentality has not.

[justjoe86]

And where in that sentence did I say one should not get a different perspective in life? I was criticizing those expats who adopt a superior and haughty attitude to their oversess place thinking home is so much better. They are the ones who aren't willing to get a different perspective on life.

Their place of resis3nce may have chsnge, but their mentality has not.

Erm...

They came to Hong Kong, got another perspective and it was different to yours. That's what you're angry about. They don't agree with you. Grow up.

I came to HK aged 23, in 2009, and now, aged 34, I'm going to leave soon. Do I regret it? No. Have I weighed up the pros and cons objectively? Yes.

A lot of others who you are belittling and criticising have made similar decisions with a similar process. People don't move their family to another country to piss you off.

[Coolboy]

Erm...

They came to Hong Kong, got another perspective and it was different to yours. That's what you're angry about. They don't agree with you. Grow up.

No, I doubt their perspective ever changed. They came with a set of assumptions and they simply look for things to confirm it. Tell them to grow up.

And no I'm not upset, just sharing a different viewpoint.

[justjoe86]

No, their perspective never changed. They came with a set of assumptions and they simply look for things to confirm it. Tell them to grow up.

Hahaha. Your logic is hilarious.

People move to Hong Kong in order to confirm negative assumptions about it?

You really think that?

"Hong Kong is shit. Let me move there and raise my family there to confirm that. Won't that be fun?"

[Coolboy]

Hahaha. Your logic is hilarious.

People move to Hong Kong in order to confirm negative assumptions about it?

You really think that?

"Hong Kong is shit. Let me move there and raise my family there to confirm that. Won't that be fun?"

People come to HK for all sort of reasons, but among a lot of them, the primary motive is money. As for actual place...some of them don't really care for it. Make enough $$$ and move to the next spot, where ever that may be.

[justjoe86]

People come to HK for all sort of reasons, but among a lot of them, the primary motive is money. As for actual place...some of them don't really care for.

So they got a new perspective.

Money isn't everything.

The fact they're willing to take a pay cut in order to leave is actually worth considering. It's not out of narrow-mindedness but due to experience. The quality of life elsewhere (for some people, according to their own value systems) is better even with less money.

I know if I move to the UK, I will initially take a pay cut. I also believe my daughter's quality of life will be better. This isn't a personal insult to Hong Kong. It's just my own decision and that of many others.

You're the one who brought a sarcastic and defensive tone to this discussion and painted people as villains simply for having an opinion. Anyway that's enough internet forum squabbling for me today. Go drop your fishing rod somewhere else.

[Coolboy]

So they got a new perspective.

Money isn't everything.

Yes...that can be in true in some cases, but in my experience, what I hear instead is that "HK is only a good place to make money and offers nothing else...my stay here has confirmed that".