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  1. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by David4Maths:
    I STRONGLY disagree with your comments about it is only because they can't afford them. As a first generation ( I am nearly 70 ) member of my family never to have to go into domestic service, you would find if you cared to ask, that the vast majority think of "helpers" as only for the Toffs. Certainly only the rich have them and not in the way they are in HK, and UK expats here that do have them would certainly not want to get the "look" from others back in UK.

    Helpers are used in the home in UK but vastly for the sick and elderly under the local authority, home help scheme and do not live in unless the person is servely in need and is not in a purpose built care facility. Busy people, usually singletons , may have a cleaner come in for an hour a day or a few hours a week but thats about it. I have never met one person who employed a cook. Stars have hairdressers and contract staff etc and big stars or people in country mansions may have staff but they have big places that need a team and they pay well for trustworthy people.

    Looking back at my uncles and great uncles etc. Until they where 11 they would work as "rabbiters" and get paid by what they caught. At 11 they could work as a hall boy, below stairs, cleaning shoes. My mother was a maid and all her siblings. When I was 3 I remember being taken to a BIG London theatre stars house, in a Kensington Mews house, near our flat, for whom my mother cleaned. Her family going back 250 years where likewise employed, my grandfather as a gamekeeper and an uncle who was a landsman at Windsor Great Park for King George ( and was killed in Singapore by the Japanese ) and today 99.9% of working people would never consider it. My mother ensured I never would have the need to work in service.

    So I strongly disagree with your assumption and apologise for the rant but it hits a nerve.

    I am sure there might be a few UK pats who might disagree but I would ask them, why they didn't have one before they came out here. It's not about money it's about culture. Certainly in my nearly 20 years here as a family, despite the wifes nagging, I have never cosidered it and treat every DH I encounter , in every home I visit, with due respect and kindness because I can understand. ( which I know is not a premise to your comment )
    Thank you for your comment. I don't see how we disagree.

    Now you should make up a story about your grandmother being a maid chamber for King George, and your father having had a cunning resemblance to King George. You always wondered whether your father wasn't actually an illegitimate son of King George, specially since your grandmother got a very very generous payment by King George for keeping mum, and used the money to open a restaurant in London, where King George would often come incognito to dine. In fact, your family is the only who knows that, etc. etc. etc. .......

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    Thank you for you sceptical reply. 1) Next time you're in UK. Go to Windsor Castle go on a tour of S to George's Chapel . You will see a memorial to be the fallen . You will see the name " Oswald Cross " my Uncle. 2) To compliment that you can go to Singapore and find his name on the wall at the war cemetary by the causeway to Jahor Bahru. "Cross,Oswald, Gunner,Royal Artillery." I visited in 73 when in the Navy and took pictures for my mother. He has no stone as he was buried at sea from a hospital ship.

    Any more snarky remarks? Fyi his wife was given a grace and favour apartment for life by the King and the present Queen continued it. I visited her a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    The UK families manage to survive and look after their own children without helpers.
    And it comes at a real cost to many individuals and also to the economy/scientific innovation etc.

    https://www.economist.com/britain/20...e-is-expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentleGeorge:
    And it comes at a real cost to many individuals and also to the economy/scientific innovation etc.
    That must be why Hong Kong is a hot bed of innovation and science
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    That must be why Hong Kong is a hot bed of innovation and science
    You aren't grateful for injection plastic moulding?

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