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    Quote Originally Posted by mlclau:
    United need to ship Moyes off before its too late. He's like a virus that needs to be removed, before it spreads to the rest of the body.
    Who else is there at the moment? Besides you really do need to give him some time. Sir Alex didnt do that well in his first season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justjoe86:
    It is hard to say who will win the league out of the current top 3. Man city have the goals, Chelsea the ability to grind results out, and Arsenal seem to be finding a new level of consistency. If they can get another striker this Jan it'll go to the wire.
    I reckon it will be between Man city and Chelsea. It will come down to how they do head to head. Don't know why and the bookies agree but just cant see the gooners doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trance Omega:
    I reckon it will be between Man city and Chelsea. It will come down to how they do head to head. Don't know why and the bookies agree but just cant see the gooners doing it.
    Possibly because as hard as he works, giroud just has a habit of looking terrible at times. They need more up front!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trance Omega:
    I reckon it will be between Man city and Chelsea. It will come down to how they do head to head. Don't know why and the bookies agree but just cant see the gooners doing it.
    I am hoping the bookies have it wrong but still have my reservations about Arsenal being able to keep it going.
    Still 16 games to go and 48 points up for grabs.
    Arsenal have been much better this season than in recent history on picking up the 3 points from games they should win.

    There are 2 blocks where they have a run of games which will decide their season.
    First one coming up in a couple of weeks with liverpool away, United at home, then Bayern in the CL.

    Then in mid march to april, they got back to back spurs away, chelsea away, city at home and everton away.

    If they come away at the end of that still at/near the top, then they would be strong shouts at the title. Their last 5 games are "should" wins.

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    Well if my team can't do it I would prefer Arsenal anytime over city. Also good on the supporters for sticking with their manager even though he got no silverware for 8 years. Wish other clubs, including my own would take a leaf out of Arsenals book.

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    I would also prefer watching another team other than City or Chelsea win it.

    Call it my resentment against cash rich owners coming in and trying to buy a premiership.
    Everytime I watch City, while their play can be excellent, I can't help but feel that the players are not there for the club, loving the club and wanting to win it for the fans and the team rather than their own bank accounts.
    At least with United, their success and legacy wasn't grown overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW14:
    I would also prefer watching another team other than City or Chelsea win it.

    Call it my resentment against cash rich owners coming in and trying to buy a premiership.
    Everytime I watch City, while their play can be excellent, I can't help but feel that the players are not there for the club, loving the club and wanting to win it for the fans and the team rather than their own bank accounts.
    At least with United, their success and legacy wasn't grown overnight.
    I agree with you that their titles in the mid nineties up to 2003 was mainly as a result of their academy products with the odd big signing (Veron and Stam for example) to supplement them. However since the 2005/06 season Man United have bought the following (Ive left out those that didnt have a fee).

    So to say they haven't bought the title like Man City and Chelsea is just plain wrong. Not to mention the fact that they are not much more than a marketing machine in the USA and Asia especially. Profits generated from that could also be akin to buying the title.

    The funny thing is, half the players below have been failures.

    PLAYER FROM FEE DATE
    Marouane Fellaini Everton £27,500,000
    Shinji Kagawa B Dortmund £12,000,000 22 Jun, 2012
    Robin van Persie Arsenal £24,000,000 17 Aug, 2012
    Wilfried Zaha C Palace £15,000,000 25 Jan, 2013
    Guillermo Varela Penarol £2,400,000 07 Jun, 2013
    David de Gea Atl Madrid £18,900,000 29 Jun, 2011
    Nick Powell Crewe £4,000,000 12 Jun, 2012
    Bebe Vitoria £7,400,000 11 Aug, 2010
    Anders LindegaardAalesund £3,500,000 01 Jan, 2011
    Phil Jones Blackburn £16,500,000 13 Jun, 2011
    Ashley Young Aston Villa £17,000,000 23 Jun, 2011
    Dimitar Berbatov Tottenham £30,750,000 01 Sep, 2008
    Michael Carrick Tottenham £18,600,000 31 Jul, 2006
    Owen Hargreaves B Munich £17,000,000 01 Jul, 2007
    Anderson Porto £27,000,000 02 Jul, 2007
    Tomasz Kuszczak West Brom £2,125,000 02 Jul, 2007
    Nani Sporting Lisbon £25,500,000 02 Jul, 2007
    Ji-Sung Park PSV Eindhoven £4,000,000 05 Jul, 2005
    Ben Foster Stoke £1,000,000 19 Jul, 2005
    Nemanja Vidic Spartak Moscow £7,000,000 04 Jan, 2006
    Patrice Evra Monaco £5,500,000 10 Jan, 2006
    Wayne Rooney Everton £20,000,000 31 Aug, 2004

    Total transfer fees spent in the last 10 years = 306.675m
    Transfer fees recouped in the same time = 182.1m
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    Anderson 27million. Oops


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    United being able to spend like that was due to the marketing machine and success they brought during the 90s and early 2000s.
    The money was generated through their own brand not due to one person with no prior affiliation to the club.
    This is the same that can be applied to Barcelona and Real Madrid. I am sure if we did the same exercise with those two teams, we would have similar or worse numbers.


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    Interesting list though Trebor.

    Definitely some hits and misses.

    Any thoughts on the best and worst signings in the past 10 years, given the transfer fee vs impact for the club.

    Evra for 5.5 million, Park for 4 million, Vidic for 7million

    vs

    Nani for 25.5million and Fellaini for 27.5 million (although you could argue that Fellaini needs more time).


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