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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat:
    Can we not turn this great thread into another US one?

    Give us ur winners for quarter final CC.


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    Agreed. I was just responding to Elle's post about the US & World Champions... can't let her get away with that

    I think the US has a shot against Belgium, especially if Altidore returns to the lineup. They really need his offense.

    I like:

    Mexico
    Greece
    Argentina
    Belgium


    Chile
    Columbia
    France
    Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by elle:
    The English Premier League has plenty of international players too, yet they don't declare themselves world champions, neither does Spain's La Liga or or Germany's Bundesliga.
    Because all those leagues are somewhat close in talent.....

    The NBA has no rival...no other league even comes close to the talent level on the NBA. Same with MLB.

    These two leagues are clearly, far and away, the best leagues in the world at their respective sports. The best players in the world perform in these leagues. There really is no debate. The winner of these leagues is inarguably the best team in the world!
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    By this logic of saying the winners of the US league are world champions, couldn't we rename the world cup as the Milky Way Cup?

    Sure the US league might be the best but it is hilariously American to hype up the name to something more than it is.

    Back to the football... I'm really excited about the midnight match tonight. I like Chile, but hope Brazil go through as i would love a Brazil Argentina final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justjoe86:
    By this logic of saying the winners of the US league are world champions, couldn't we rename the world cup as the Milky Way Cup?

    Sure the US league might be the best but it is hilariously American to hype up the name to something more than it is.
    Why is it more than it is? Just like the World Cup, the best players in the world compete in the NBA & MLB. I honestly don't see the big deal in calling them world champions when they inarguably are the best players in the world competing.

    Best players in the WORLD competing in a league ... what would you call the winner?

    It's a global league...not a US league.
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    Let's get back to World cup talk. TOM! Please save this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by justjoe86:
    Let's get back to World cup talk. TOM! Please save this thread

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    Agreed. Let's get back to World Cup.
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    2014 FiFA Worldcup Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Walter White:
    Yes, I agree that Portugal aren't a great side, but on paper they should be better than the US. Ghana should be better than the US too. So it's job very well done to get out of that group!

    Pre tournament did you have the US coming out of that group? Not many did.
    True not many but they did believe right from the start. Think the US team has an incredible spirit with a very strong believe. Sounds stereotype and won't help always but check out I.e. Ghana, Portugal. Some top class players but it didn't work. Don't want to mention Pepe here but we all know why the game ended 0:4 vs Germany and that score line was decisive at the end. Well and Ghana?

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/...teng-suspended

    For the USA it ain't over yet and they certainly have their chances vs Belgium. That's not an uber team by any means and it's only one single game. No second chance. Just have read that Vincent Kompany and Thomas Vermaelen are doubtful. That would be a major blow and would surely help the USA a big deal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by closedcasket:
    Why is it more than it is? Just like the World Cup, the best players in the world compete in the NBA & MLB. I honestly don't see the big deal in calling them world champions when they inarguably are the best players in the world competing.

    Best players in the WORLD competing in a league ... what would you call the winner?

    It's a global league...not a US league.
    Probably because baseball and basketball are really not all that popular outside the US yet football is the most popular sport by far in almost every other country in the world!!

    By your logic, the winners of the European Champions League should be called World Series champions as these are the best players in the world competing for the trophy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by closedcasket:
    So you think that the NBA & MLB have teams from only one nation?

    If you are going to be snarky, I suggest you at least get your facts straight
    Go easy on Elle, what does a BRIT know about American (or Canadian) sports? At least in Canada and US, we are still good at the sports we invented (hockey and basketball), unlike a certain little island off the coast of continental Europe.

    Getting back to World Cup, referring to the earlier point by Heisenberg (aka Walter White), many teams look good on paper, but its how they actually perform that matters, not what their FIFA ranking is or what players are on their roster. Which made me wonder, which traditional football power will be eliminated next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by statman:
    Probably because baseball and basketball are really not all that popular outside the US yet football is the most popular sport by far in almost every other country in the world!!

    By your logic, the winners of the European Champions League should be called World Series champions as these are the best players in the world competing for the trophy!


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    You must be joking right? Basketball is damn popular around the world. Why do you think there are so many international players in the NBA otherwise? Baseball a little less so, but is still played by many countries around the world, and is especially popular around the Caribbean, some South American countries and Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

    Just because its not a sport invented by the Brits does not mean it is not globally popular.
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