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    Quote Originally Posted by JAherbert:
    more expo space was a very stupid idea, demanded by HKTDC, a defunct and completely pointless organisation now since manufacturing headed north years ago
    It really doesn't make sense. Even the gargantuan Canton Fair have realised that smaller more focused shows are better and now spread the event by theme over a longer period.

    The utilization of the Wanchai Expo is poor. It needs to better manage what it has now rather than have more money thrown at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JAherbert:
    They have to invent work to justify their existence, increasingly poking their nose into other sectors because there is little "trade" to justify those positions (government positions), salaries, offices, etc. and their website is carp
    I went to a trade show in Frankfurt recently and the 'Hong Kong' stand was primarily filled with mainland manufacturers with no links to Hong Kong. This is galling on two levels. Firstly Hong Kong tax payers are subsidising mainland firms to exhibit in far away paces but secondly and more importantly the HKTDC deliberately blurs the line between companies that operate in a jurisdiction with mature legal and intellectual property rights with China. What is the point of having a trade body for Hong Kong that doesn't even highlight the SAR's advantages.
    Last edited by East_coast; 11-10-2017 at 07:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    What it appears you believe happened

    - Executive Branch propose a blatant land grab of a public resource
    - Public cries foul but they should not as losing accessible recreational facilities is not a big issue
    - All goes quiet
    - Next CE announced the plans will be 'shelved' so the public were stupid and the Government infallible
    Mouth stuffing yet again.

    This is what happened

    - Executive Branch proposes new plan for a public resource
    - Government says a feasibility study will be conducted by the Trade Development Council and that the government will consult the Wan Chai District Council and other stakeholders
    - Trade development council, Wan Chai District council, other stakeholders were consulted. Export sector split on tearing down sports ground, local councilor says plan to redevelop Wan Chai Sports Ground is feasible, athletic group urges government to set aside plan, but commits to conducting a thorough study of whether the resources are needed
    - New government decides not to proceed after consulting stakeholders

    A typical government process. The land grab and vested interests are all invented by you. I'm sure your complaining on an expat forum had zero impact on their decision making process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    It really doesn't make sense. Even the gargantuan Canton Fair have realised that smaller more focused shows are better and now spread the event by theme over a longer period.

    The utilization of the Wanchai Expo is poor. It needs to better manage what it has now rather than have more money thrown at it.



    I went to a trade show in Frankfurt recently and the 'Hong Kong' stand was primarily filled with mainland manufacturers with no links to Hong Kong. This is galling on two levels. Firstly Hong Kong tax payers are subsidising mainland firms to exhibit in far away paces but secondly and more importantly the HKTDC deliberately blurs the line between companies that operate in a jurisdiction with mature legal and intellectual property rights with China. What is the point of having a trade body for Hong Kong that doesn't even highlight the SAR's advantages.
    you hit the nail on the head, HKTDC cant reinvent itself so left promoting "trade" which happens to be located in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    Mouth stuffing yet again.

    This is what happened

    - Executive Branch proposes new plan for a public resource
    - Government says a feasibility study will be conducted by the Trade Development Council and that the government will consult the Wan Chai District Council and other stakeholders
    - Trade development council, Wan Chai District council, other stakeholders were consulted. Export sector split on tearing down sports ground, local councilor says plan to redevelop Wan Chai Sports Ground is feasible, athletic group urges government to set aside plan, but commits to conducting a thorough study of whether the resources are needed
    - New government decides not to proceed after consulting stakeholders

    A typical government process.
    You're probably right. The 'consultation' found there was no need to use the cheaper sports ground as they could use the more expensive government offices. The public uproar making it politically unpalatable had no effect.


    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    The land grab and vested interests are all invented by you.
    Obviously it is not government policy to take prime land and allocate it to a Hong then relocate the less 'useful' incumbents to somewhere cheaper.
    Last edited by East_coast; 12-10-2017 at 06:18 PM.

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    Wanchai Sports ground too valuable to allow the public to use so must be sold eventually

    Carrie Lam says Wan Chai Sports Ground will be demolished – eventually | South China Morning Post

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    Oh God, now we're going to have civil_servant spinning around again - he is already dizzy from trying to keep up supporting the current Government line of the day!

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    I am so tempted to anoint someone as the Sarah Huckabee of Geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Wanchai Sports ground too valuable to allow the public to use so must be sold eventually
    That and also dont forget about prisons.

    Most of Hong Kong's prisons sit on some lovely real estate - why shouldn't they be sold. Put the prisoners (as well as the athletes) somewhere else, they certainly dont need the expensive views....

    Now, where did I put my $6000 cheque?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    I am so tempted to anoint someone as the Sarah Huckabee of Geo
    If you do that, you must pick a Kellyanne Conway of Geo too!
    Its so sad that the top candidate for that position is no longer amongst us.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Wanchai Sports ground too valuable to allow the public to use so must be sold eventually

    Carrie Lam says Wan Chai Sports Ground will be demolished – eventually | South China Morning Post

    Carrie Lam:

    “In the future, if we can find a good place to relocate the sports ground, I hope the sports community would accept it.”

    That means that they're going to consult stakeholders in the future. No different than what they're doing now. No different than any other town planners in the world. End of story.

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