Kayaking to Macau from HK

[Elegiaque]

Do you know Dave Wilson who runs "Sea Kayak Hong Kong" on Meetup? He might have some advice. You'd need to clearly demonstrate your experience and ability to him, though. He can be a cynical old grump and might just tell you to bugger off.

Edit: for the record he has extensive experience kayaking in HK and waters around Shenzhen.

[CharSiuNow]

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Just remember that free advice is usually worth what you paid for it, and sometimes less. Also, I'd go for 5, 12, 24, 25, 36 and 48.

[jgl]

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You really need to talk to someone who has done this before. Quite obviously, none of us on this forum have, and we're talking out our arses/blind guessing here.

I'll ask someone who's done it and if I get anything back will PM. But seriously, try to contact the clubs. Government departments will get you nowhere- you're trying to do something completely out of the scope of their normal experience so of course they are going to play safe and clam up.

[jgl]

PM sent. Sounds like a huge pain in the ass with special immigration arrangements. But again, that's only one data point, try contacting others that have been mentioned on this thread.

[Coolboy]

You really need to talk to someone who has done this before. Quite obviously, none of us on this forum have, and we're talking out our arses/blind guessing here.

I'll ask someone who's done it and if I get anything back will PM. But seriously, try to contact the clubs. Government departments will get you nowhere- you're trying to do something completely out of the scope of their normal experience so of course they are going to play safe and clam up.

Good, you are saying something useful here for a change. The Marine Department is probably the most worthless department in the whole of the HK government and I am not exaggerating. I speak from experience. I complained to them about hot-dogging jet skis going full blast in a slow speed/no wake zone in Tai Tam and the department said they can't do anything about it. You know, not even a "we'll look into it" or "we'll try", they just flat out say they can't do anything about. Incompetence beyond belief.

[jgl]

Please do not quote me, I don't want the notifications as you've been on my Ignore list for months Your post rate is over 2000/year, probably the highest in the forum. Some of it is probably useful information, but as far as I can tell, most of it is noise for the sake of noise. As an example, you had nothing useful to contribute to this thread- you know nothing about immigration procedures for this kind of activity, nor do you even know anyone who's done this.

The route/safety issues are so obvious that blind Freddy could see them, so I wouldn't regard those as a useful contribution either. OP seems clued up enough to be aware of those, and there is a standard mitigation strategy that anyone involved with long distance paddling should already be aware of.

[Coolboy]

Please do not quote me, I don't want to be alerted by the notifications as you're on my Ignore list. Your post rate is over 2000/year, probably the highest in the forum. Some of it is probably useful information, but as far as I can tell, most of it is noise for the sake of noise. As an example, you had nothing useful to contribute to this thread- you know nothing about immigration procedures for this kind of activity, nor do you even know anyone who's done this.

The route/safety issues are so obvious that blind Freddy could see them, so I wouldn't regard those as a useful contribution either. OP seems clued up enough to be aware of those, and there is a standard mitigation strategy that anyone involved with long distance paddling should already be aware of.

I can quote you whenever I like. I was simply shocked you made a marginally useful post out of all the nonsense you make. And what is useful or not is not for you to judge. If safety issues is so obvious, why haven't anyone mentioned Jet Foils before I did? Do you know there are even ferries that go to Zhuhai or the way mainland vessels behave vs other countries? No, you don't. It is NOT obvious without experience. I have experience of that. Other people already state immigration, why do I need to repeat what others have already said? Bottom line, you don't know jack, you are not in a position to criticize others who do know a thing or two about boating in HK.

And do you know the Marine Department seldom ever enforce safety in HK waters? Look at the 2012 Lamma crash:

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ry-crash-lamma

I'll say this, DeletedUser writes complete nonsense 100% of the time. You write nonsense 99.5% of the time, there, how's that for a compliment. Bottom line, your personal hatred against me blinds you to an objective judgement of what I post. But hatred really is not a good emotion to have.

You did not even bother posting an actual lin to kayak organizations in HK? Not even this:

Outward Bound did it, see their facebook page. The OP can contact them.

Or this:

https://seakayakhongkong.com/

So tell me who really is more useful here?

[Cwbguy]

My 50c:- I hope that you are very fit and very experienced in a kayak.
60+km in rough open water with heavy traffic is a very adventurous task.

I have kayaked from Deep Water Bay to Lamma which is around 7 km. When you leave the safety of the Ocean Park area and are in the main channel it can get very rough out there. Some of the more experienced surfskiers from the VRC used to go out there because the waves were high and they could catch good rides from the wake of the big ships. In a kayak this can be very scary, especially when a few km away from land.

I would advise you did not do this alone. There are too many opportunities for trouble, and as posted elsewhere, the ferries can crash into each other, and solid objects, in broad daylight.

if you like I can put you in touch with surfskiers/outrigger riders from the VRC who compete in the 30k+km Dragon Run. The Youtube vids of that race will give you an idea what conditions can be like.

In a time honoured Geo tradition I havn't answered any of your three questions.

All the best.

[henkka]

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I don't know about the Garmin GPS thing, but just crossing trough the waters should not be a problem.

There was a case a few years back of that guy who sold books in Causeway bay, he just went to Shenzhen without using any of official border checkpoints and came back. A number of officials at that time made it clear you don't need to use the official checkpoints you can just go.

[Elegiaque]

I highly suggest you do a trip around Lantau. There's a chance you can see dolphins around Fan Lau and along with the views of Lantau and Sunset Peak, it's absolutely stunning. The government is set on destroying Lantau -- so it would be helpful to highlight this and enjoy it while you can.

I was going to mention you should not try your trip when Mr. Xi is around.

Hope you can find another challenge in Taiwan -- maybe let us know if you do?

And do contact Dave Wilson if you haven't already to get his point of view and suggestions.