24 hour gyms in Hong Kong, which one to go for?

[O_O]

people don't go out of the way to make your life difficult by giving you additional instructions unless it is necessary.

Lol are you serious? This is HK we are living in.

[redslert]

yes I am serious, if you go about life thinking people go out their way to make your life difficult then you become bitter and cranky all the time. Not only in HK.

[jgl]

Someone really could do with a refresher on Hanlon's Razor

[Cegaiga]

Chillout people, just put a mat down.
Most likely due to the people downstairs noise complaint.

While putting a mat down is fine for many, it does affect your workout because of the elevation and I don't actually think it makes any different to the downstairs unless you have a specifically built platform like they do in many powerlifting gyms. That is what is baffling, getting a platform not to be used.

Also if putting down a mat is necessary, it really says a lot about the gym.

[Eddy Mundo]

Why is that? I would have thought that all you need is a power cage and barbell (ideally more than one). I've only walked past Anytime Fitness, never been in one.

The only Go24 I have seen has been very good, but that was just one branch in North Point.

Depends on the location of course. When I used to go to Anytime in Kwai Fong, they had two power cages. It was great. Then I went to Anytime in another location and they only had one power rack on a platform. There's always someone on it so you always had to wait to use it. Don't know how it is now as I haven't been a member for a few years.

[redslert]

Someone really could do with a refresher on Hanlon's Razor

The same thought process applies, when someone provides you with simple instructions to allow activates to continue, but you think better of it.
Then one day when the gym removes the ability for you to perform deadlifts... you probably will be the loudest to complaint...
All it takes is one person to not do a simple action.

Life and human interactions goes both directions.
Give and take.

Hanlon's Razor for your own reading?

[jgl]

The same thought process applies, when someone provides you with simple instructions to allow activates to continue, but you think better of it.
Then one day when the gym removes the ability for you to perform deadlifts... you probably will be the loudest to complaint...
All it takes is one person to not do a simple action.

Life and human interactions goes both directions.
Give and take.

Hanlon's Razor for your own reading?

You really failed to understand what Hanlon's Razor is, didn't you?

From previous posts, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I get the strong feeling here that you know absolutely nothing about strength training in general, and deadlift in particular. Have you contributed anything involving knowledge in this thread, or are you just spraying your uniformed opinion around like a cat randomly marking territory?

What exactly do you think the point of a deadlift platform is? Why would a gym install one, rather than use bare flooring, if they insisted on adding big rubber mats to it, mats which bring olympic plates out of spec and shorten range of motion, so if you ever tried to deadlift elsewhere you'd be de-trained for the first part of the heaviest lifting exercise that exists?

Or do you also promote the idea of the lifter standing on the same height of rubber mats to keep full range of motion, but sacrifice anything resembling stability, again for the heaviest exercise that exists. The exercise that is by far the most likely to result in significant injury if performed without proper stability?

Why would a gym remove the ability of people to perform deadlifts? This is the basic lift underpinning practically every one of the Olympic lifts. A gym that doesn't allow deadlifting is like a restaurant that refuses to provide eating utensils.

Personally, I used mats in my last gym. Because their plates were 5cm smaller than regulation size, and the mats brought them into spec. Regardless though, it's an easy thing to put down a heavy bar without a huge amount of force, so the mats did nothing besides fix a problem with the plates.

[redslert]

You really failed to understand what Hanlon's Razor is, didn't you?

From previous posts, this doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

What exactly do you think the point of a deadlift platform is? Why would a gym install one, rather than use bare flooring, if they insisted on adding big rubber mats to it, mats which bring olympic plates out of spec and shorten range of motion, so if you ever tried to deadlift elsewhere, you'd be de-trained for the first part of the heaviest lifting exercise that can be done?

Please explain if somehow I am not as deeply knowledgeable as you.
I rather be humble than arrogant.

Once again, addition padding to help reduce noise/vibration.
I'm sure a few centimeters wouldn't dramatically impact your workout, otherwise go find another gym to your liking?
Have freedom to choose right?

Give and take - life is more enjoyable when considering both sides.

[jgl]

Please explain if somehow I am not as deeply knowledgeable as you.
I rather be humble than arrogant.

Once again, addition padding to help reduce noise/vibration.
I'm sure a few centimeters wouldn't dramatically impact your workout, otherwise go find another gym to your liking?
Have freedom to choose right?

Give and take - life is more enjoyable when considering both sides.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

If you know nothing about exercise, why do you insist on letting the world know that you just need to spray words onto the internet from a position of ignorance. Spraying words on a subject you know nothing about is not humble in the slightest. If it's anything, it is arrogance.

Have you ever deadlifted? It sounds like you haven't.

But because you asked:

I'm sure a few centimeters wouldn't dramatically impact your workout, otherwise go find another gym to your liking?

The first few centimeters is one of the most common places to fail at the deadlift. Much more likely than partway through the motion. So yes, it does make a difference. If you raise the bar via floor mats, you don't train for the hardest part of the exercise so if you try to deadlift in a proper gym, you are likely to fail.

What makes you think that I need to find another gym? I haven't said anything like that in this thread. Are you confusing me with someone else? FWIW, I have found plenty of gyms- none of them have ever told people to use mats. If a gym was so badly set up, with such ignorant staff as to require mats, I would leave the gym.

[Gavster]

Ah c'mon guys there's no competition here and anything can be said on the Internet nowadays where we have no repercussions or need to prove anything so being mean to each other online is kinda pointless. Let's not put anyone down. We're all here to give and get a little help so all meaningful contributions are welcome.