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    Liam Rosenoir just completed his 50th match as a head coach. 12 as temporary head coach at Derby and 38 at Hull. First season with his squad, 4th, and 7 games unbeaten. Think there is a PL manager of the future.

    Has changed the style of play completely, build from the back. Is still a work in progress and frustrates the fans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    Incredible, wonder if it is a record beyond the PL?
    1) score eight goals, away
    2) no player can score more than one goal
    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    I would bet Twenty American dollars that it's a modern record. i.e. Who knows what record keeping was like 80+ years ago
    From "The Athletic"

    It does feel quite churlish to focus on the losing team when a Premier League side has just scored eight times in a single game. Particularly when those eight goals came from eight different scorers, the first time that has ever happened in the Premier League era, and the first time it has happened in the top flight since Liverpool beat Crystal Palace 9-0 in 1989.
    I'd have lost $20us had someone taken my bet. It has happened as recently as 1989!
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    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    Chelsea just fell behind Villa at 73'. They lost a man to about 15 minute earlier. If they manage to find an equalizer, it'll be with only ten players on the pitch. Manchester United has gotten all the (unwanted) attention for their poor start but Chelsea is in crisis.

    CHE 0-1 AV. 77'.
    From "The Athletic"
    this isn’t just a momentary loss of form: Chelsea haven’t been good for about 18 months now. They have collected 49 points from 44 games since the start of last season, and just 25 in 2023.

    In the league table of this calendar year, they would be fifth from bottom, above only Everton on goal difference, and last season’s three relegated teams plus this season’s three promoted teams.

    It’s not great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    Yeah, the newly promoted clubs look to have purchased round-trip tickets. I'll take the over on Sheffield United's point total if you set the mark at 11. They'll come up with a surprise win or two and chip away at some of the weaker clubs for points here and there.
    From "The Athletic"
    this is shaping up to be a heroically bad intake of teams in the Premier League. The promoted trio have managed three points between them from a combined 16 games, Luton picking up their first at home to Wolverhampton Wanderers on Saturday. Members of Derby County’s 2007-08 team, holders of the record low points total with 11, might be sitting up and taking notice, wondering: is this the year?

    Sheffield United might be the worst of the three. Burnley play decent enough football and have a few genuinely exciting performers, and while Luton’s squad is basically a collection of Championship players, their style of play will also cause a few problems.
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    Full article from which the snippets were lifted in the posts above. Behind a paywall but worth a read if you subscribe.

    https://theathletic.com/4894864/2023...sea-tottenham/


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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    Thanks huja. Those bottom three are the promoted teams aren't they?

    Will Sheff Utd beat Derby's record of just 11 points in the season?
    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    Yeah, the newly promoted clubs look to have purchased round-trip tickets. I'll take the over on Sheffield United's point total if you set the mark at 11. They'll come up with a surprise win or two and chip away at some of the weaker clubs for points here and there.

    From the article linked below . . .
    “It’s like a different sport,” Rob Edwards said when invited to reflect on the challenge Luton Town have faced in their first five games in the Premier League.

    “Everyone is way better. The decision-making, the quality… I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone in the Championship, but it really is. The speed things happen, the decision-making, the execution. It’s hard to really comprehend. You can watch lots of Premier League football, and I have done, but then you stand on the touchline — or if you’re a player, you feel it on the pitch — and it’s like a different game.”
    https://theathletic.com/4893884/2023...league-excess/
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    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    From the article linked below . . .


    https://theathletic.com/4893884/2023...league-excess/
    Hull have bounced up and down a couple of times. Players who looked OK in the Championship look decidedly below standard in the PL. The gulf is enormous.

    The hope comes from the examples of Brighton and of Brentford who have both gone up and thrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    Hull have bounced up and down a couple of times. Players who looked OK in the Championship look decidedly below standard in the PL. The gulf is enormous.

    The hope comes from the examples of Brighton and of Brentford who have both gone up and thrived.
    It has to be an impossible task for management for these up-and-down clubs to make any financial plans when they don't know if they will have Premier League income or Championship money from season to season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huja:
    It has to be an impossible task for management for these up-and-down clubs to make any financial plans when they don't know if they will have Premier League income or Championship money from season to season.
    Parachute payments help soften the burden but can leave a club in yoyo land and if the Championship club spends big to get back in the PL and fails then they are in financial trouble.

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    Oh ….

    EFL Cup
    3rd Round

    Newcastle v ManCity 1:0
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    iverpool v Leicester 3:1
    Chelsea v Brighton 1:0
    Brentford v Arsenal 0:1
    Villa v Everton 1:2
    ManUnited v Palace 3:0Blackburn v Cardiff 5:2
    Lincoln v West Ham 0:1
    Bournemouth v Stoke 2:0
    Fulham v Stoke 2:1

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