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  1. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobin:
    I will say that if the other guy is Chinese, you won't be able to teach him anything about the law nor civil behavior. He can smell a buck and won't relent.


    It's always nice to read this type of racist shite.. Got any more to share?

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    The housing estates in Hong Kong are full of heavily lawyered up road traffic accident victims pursuing whiplash claims and the like . Did the other party brake suddenly .?

    I agree with the suggestion the other party has probably lodged a claim and needs you to admit blame. Be careful any admission may have civil consequence later insurance company trying to recoup losses .

    Road traffic accident injury claims are of course only outnumbered by work injury related paper cuts. These take years to work their way through the system and I can assure you the claimants aren't representing themselves .

    You and I are paying for their years of free legal advice via the legal aid scheme .

    I suggest you see if you qualify for legal aid via the relevant government department .

    Last edited by hongkong7; 14-07-2021 at 12:04 AM.
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    interesting similarities:

    i accidentally reversed into another car leaving the tiniest of scratches. the village hooligan wanted 10+k, i offered a generous 3k and he didn't accept. going through police and insurance process now and the police is also talking to me in whatsapp lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie09:
    interesting similarities:

    i accidentally reversed into another car leaving the tiniest of scratches. the village hooligan wanted 10+k, i offered a generous 3k and he didn't accept. going through police and insurance process now and the police is also talking to me in whatsapp lol
    There is a reason why car cams are so popular these days with HK car owners. There are more and more of these folks who want a payout or intentionally exaggerating the damage to their cars on the most ridiculous grounds, faking their injuries and using almost ambulance chasing-style lawyers to do their dirty deeds.

    That is why it is always prudent to arm yourself with evidence in the form of actual video of any incident. You can't count on the police these days to do what is right, you can only rely on yourself. So car cams are the way to go.
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    UPDATE:

    Happy to inform everyone my case is closed and I have been acquitted. I went through the whole shebang of first hearing and represented myself in court (2 separate visits and a big waste of time).

    Not only was I, the defendant, acquitted for this ridiculous accusation, the judge says potentially the one at fault may be the opposing driver (the witness).

    My next steps is to follow up with the police to see if Careless driving charges will be laid to the opposition after what was determined in court. Police informed me they WILL NOT pursue any charges on accidents exceed 6 months. I was extremely pissed when I heard how carefree this cop was by saying he has no obligations to further investigate an expired case. I will file complaint against the officer if they do not apply the same charges to the opposition (complaint against police in hk...useful right?).

    In parallel, I will file a tort claim against the opposition driver for the damages to me (including annual leaves, taxi, study time, etc). Its not a strong tort claim, but its the principle


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    Quote Originally Posted by D.YU:
    UPDATE:

    Happy to inform everyone my case is closed and I have been acquitted. I went through the whole shebang of first hearing and represented myself in court (2 separate visits and a big waste of time).

    Not only was I, the defendant, acquitted for this ridiculous accusation, the judge says potentially the one at fault may be the opposing driver (the witness).

    My next steps is to follow up with the police to see if Careless driving charges will be laid to the opposition after what was determined in court. Police informed me they WILL NOT pursue any charges on accidents exceed 6 months. I was extremely pissed when I heard how carefree this cop was by saying he has no obligations to further investigate an expired case. I will file complaint against the officer if they do not apply the same charges to the opposition (complaint against police in hk...useful right?).

    In parallel, I will file a tort claim against the opposition driver for the damages to me (including annual leaves, taxi, study time, etc). Its not a strong tort claim, but its the principle
    I say sue the other guy. Claim damages. Or better yet, get your insurance company to take action for you.

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    Congrats. Glad it worked out for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cookie09:
    interesting similarities:

    i accidentally reversed into another car leaving the tiniest of scratches. the village hooligan wanted 10+k, i offered a generous 3k and he didn't accept. going through police and insurance process now and the police is also talking to me in whatsapp lol
    the other driver may have arranged a quote from his "friend" for $9,999 , I would consider getting some real quotes to have in your hand ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sage:
    Welcome to HK justice, there will be no lessons taught. There is no such offence as wasting your time, nor wasting police time.

    The fact the police have moved ahead with prosecution only goes to show what twats they are too.

    It's not 'pointless' to plead guilty at this stage, it would be positively stupid....
    Sounds like you had quite a few brushes with the law here in HK. Do divluge the nature of your criminal record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.YU:


    My next steps is to follow up with the police to see if Careless driving charges will be laid to the opposition after what was determined in court. Police informed me they WILL NOT pursue any charges on accidents exceed 6 months. I was extremely pissed when I heard how carefree this cop was by saying he has no obligations to further investigate an expired case. I will file complaint against the officer if they do not apply the same charges to the opposition (complaint against police in hk...useful right?).
    In other word a policeman told you "why should i do something if I can nothing". I fully understand why you are pissed, I would be. But I am not sure if filling a complain against a policeman will do you any good. This is HK...
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