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    Quote Originally Posted by forgetmenot:
    I think drivers drive too fast.
    Well, that is not in your list.
    nothing to do with speed (uk is much faster),

    combination of driving without due care, lack of good driving Etiquette,

    lack of police enforcement ( unless you are doing 73 kmph on a dual carriageway (50kmph limit) and stupid ticket along with it, while further down the same road, speed limit is 70kmph of standard single lane rd,

    hk driving standard way too easy to pass and simple (should make it as hard as uk one)

    and occasion driving like a mainlander with mainlander plates

    tailgating is very common and dangerous

    meaning that you have employ defensive driving techniques all the time

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    some of the congestion problem lies with the unbalanced pricing between private owned tunnels ( ie, west tunnel") and goiv owned tunnels ( cross habour)


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    Quote Originally Posted by INXS:
    *like* CC. A little off topic but related: Many hkers only use their cars on weekends. This is another problem when buying used as there actually are 10 year old cars with 60k on the clock which gives huge temptation to unscrupulous sellers to wind their clocks back...

    The problem is that there is no effective law enforcement to prevent people from turning back the clocks...thus most people do it. And once you reach the levels of thievery we have in Hong Kong...even the more honest people have to turn backs the clocks just to compete with the market or else they won't get squat for their cars.

    Perhaps a topic for another thread...but why doesn't Hong Kong effectively enforce laws regarding turning back the clocks? For a region that values rule of law and a region that somewhat effectively cracks down on counterfeit products....they sure have no control over odometer reading in this city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by closedcasket:
    The problem is that there is no effective law enforcement to prevent people from turning back the clocks...thus most people do it. And once you reach the levels of thievery we have in Hong Kong...even the more honest people have to turn backs the clocks just to compete with the market or else they won't get squat for their cars.

    Perhaps a topic for another thread...but why doesn't Hong Kong effectively enforce laws regarding turning back the clocks? For a region that values rule of law and a region that somewhat effectively cracks down on counterfeit products....they sure have no control over odometer reading in this city.
    just like there is very little protection from buying a dangerous lemon car, even if it's from a actual dealer

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    Quote Originally Posted by INXS:
    *like* CC. A little off topic but related: Many hkers only use their cars on weekends. This is another problem when buying used as there actually are 10 year old cars with 60k on the clock which gives huge temptation to unscrupulous sellers to wind their clocks back...
    Easy to identify. If they are weekend only 10 year old cars with just 60K on the clock they'll be 0 owner cars. If they are 10 year old cars with a couple of owners or more then the 60K will in 99% of cases be fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaykay:
    So I clicked the link and they have data for only approx 50% of countries in the world. It also ONLY uses road length, not road capacity. No data for parking, etc, either. Solid figures then.......
    As it does not show the number of parking spaces the data is not valid? There must be more spaces than cars for the system to work. Cost for parking varies depending on the area of the city. As for capacity are you concerned that HK have too many expressways for such a small city. The Km's of road compared to the space available indicates HK is not unusual in the density and it has a mix of single, double and multilane road systems.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.VEH.ROAD.K1?order=wbapi_data_value_2008+wbapi_d ata_value+wbapi_data_value-first&sort=desc


    If you have some data to show that annual vehicle km's per Km of road is low in HK please show it. Nothing really points that way but would be happy to be surprised.

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    As many cities and countries have on road parking, and allowances are made for this in road building, it really should be included. I'd also expect a full breakdown on the roads, types and capacities.

    Mind you maybe this will follow your argument of Mt Kellet Road parking meters being CBD.