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    Oh yeah it's those mainlanders again...blame the mainlanders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kungpaochicken
    Oh yeah it's those mainlanders again...blame the mainlanders.
    Eh?

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    The mainlander undercover guys who followed this BBC reporter into the shop is also extremely worrying, goodbye two systems!

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    The disappearance of these booksellers are all likely part of "Operation Fox Hunt" as described in TheGuardian's article detailing the disappearance of Gui Minhai. The link to this article has been posted several times on this thread by other posters.

    Operation Fox Hunt (OFH) is a mission by China to capture fugitives overseas and bring them back to China. Just do a quick google search and you will see that OFH has been featuring itself over the past year or so in places such as the US, BC Canada and Australia etc. (There could be more to add to the list). This means that the theory of OFH being responsible for Gui's capture in Thailand is in fact quite plausible. A key point is then raised here: if the operation has been a success in foreign countries, Hong Kong is not a big deal at all. It may be easier too especially since HK is under the umbrella of China. And as much as HK'ers hate to admit, China will likely feel less intimidated by resistance from HK authorities than those from foreign countries.

    China must be thinking: If the kidnap was successful in Thailand, why wouldn't it work in HK? This then prompted the kidnapping of Lee Bo. Operation Fox Hunt is largely executed by agents using tourist or business visas as an excuse to enter foreign grounds, this is blatant manipulation of immigration policies of the respective countries (US Officials have publicly complained about this before, god bless them). But here's the thing, if OFH can gutlessly violate the border security of foreign countries, it can just as easily go ahead and crush the "One Country Two Systems" agreement China have HK. It's a sad truth, but OFH appear to have the ability to trump foreign authoritative power to fulfill the goals of its mission. I wouldn't be surprised if some speculate that numerous countries will turn it up a notch further and launch a counter attack together against China to force OFH to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CX883
    The disappearance of these booksellers are all likely part of "Operation Fox Hunt" as described in TheGuardian's article detailing the disappearance of Gui Minhai. The link to this article has been posted several times on this thread by other posters.

    Operation Fox Hunt (OFH) is a mission by China to capture fugitives overseas and bring them back to China. Just do a quick google search and you will see that OFH has been featuring itself over the past year or so in places such as the US, BC Canada and Australia etc. (There could be more to add to the list). This means that the theory of OFH being responsible for Gui's capture in Thailand is in fact quite plausible. A key point is then raised here: if the operation has been a success in foreign countries, Hong Kong is not a big deal at all. It may be easier too especially since HK is under the umbrella of China. And as much as HK'ers hate to admit, China will likely feel less intimidated by resistance from HK authorities than those from foreign countries.

    China must be thinking: If the kidnap was successful in Thailand, why wouldn't it work in HK? This then prompted the kidnapping of Lee Bo. Operation Fox Hunt is largely executed by agents using tourist or business visas as an excuse to enter foreign grounds, this is blatant manipulation of immigration policies of the respective countries (US Officials have publicly complained about this before, god bless them). But here's the thing, if OFH can gutlessly violate the border security of foreign countries, it can just as easily go ahead and crush the "One Country Two Systems" agreement China have HK. It's a sad truth, but OFH appear to have the ability to trump foreign authoritative power to fulfill the goals of its mission. I wouldn't be surprised if some speculate that numerous countries will turn it up a notch further and launch a counter attack together against China to force OFH to stop.
    The CCP really does lack self-reflection ability, does it? Even if they have legitimate reasons to want these people, the way they go about grabbing these folks by violating sovereignty of countries just backfires on them. So the means don't justfied the ends, but I doubt the CCP has ever known the difference between means and ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CX883
    The disappearance of these booksellers are all likely part of "Operation Fox Hunt" as described in TheGuardian's article detailing the disappearance of Gui Minhai. The link to this article has been posted several times on this thread by other posters.

    Operation Fox Hunt (OFH) is a mission by China to capture fugitives overseas and bring them back to China. Just do a quick google search and you will see that OFH has been featuring itself over the past year or so in places such as the US, BC Canada and Australia etc. (There could be more to add to the list). This means that the theory of OFH being responsible for Gui's capture in Thailand is in fact quite plausible. A key point is then raised here: if the operation has been a success in foreign countries, Hong Kong is not a big deal at all. It may be easier too especially since HK is under the umbrella of China. And as much as HK'ers hate to admit, China will likely feel less intimidated by resistance from HK authorities than those from foreign countries.

    China must be thinking: If the kidnap was successful in Thailand, why wouldn't it work in HK? This then prompted the kidnapping of Lee Bo. Operation Fox Hunt is largely executed by agents using tourist or business visas as an excuse to enter foreign grounds, this is blatant manipulation of immigration policies of the respective countries (US Officials have publicly complained about this before, god bless them). But here's the thing, if OFH can gutlessly violate the border security of foreign countries, it can just as easily go ahead and crush the "One Country Two Systems" agreement China have HK. It's a sad truth, but OFH appear to have the ability to trump foreign authoritative power to fulfill the goals of its mission. I wouldn't be surprised if some speculate that numerous countries will turn it up a notch further and launch a counter attack together against China to force OFH to stop.
    Are any other of the operation "fox hunts" targeting individuals for what they write in a book? Freedom of speech? And they are always targeting Chinese nationals, not foreigners?

    I thought most of the operation fox hunts were Xi Xiping going after corrupt Chinese nationals who fled.

    This abduction in Hong Kong is far more concerning to me because it's meant to suppress free speech and the people who got abducted didn't deserve it.
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    Thousands take to the streets in protest over missing Hong Kong booksellers

    http://m.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/pol...sing-hong-kong


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    Quote Originally Posted by Open Casket
    Are any other of the operation "fox hunts" targeting individuals for what they write in a book? Freedom of speech? And they are always targeting Chinese nationals, not foreigners?

    I thought most of the operation fox hunts were Xi Xiping going after corrupt Chinese nationals who fled.

    This abduction in Hong Kong is far more concerning to me because it's meant to suppress free speech and the people who got abducted didn't deserve it.
    At this point, I don't think CCP (and Xi in particular) distinguish between anti-corruption targets and political dissidents. They have clamped down hard on all aspects of civil society in China. Arresting and imprisoning many dissidents. Obsession with control by Xi has reached unprecedented levels, if this kidnapping is anything to go by. If they are willing to violate "one country, two systems" to crackdown on opposition voices, then I'm afraid the days of HK enjoying its core freedoms are numbered.

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