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    There is a fine line between duty and being given the powers to investigate and enforce.

    What due diligence did the civil servant do to arrive at the conclusion?

    They've effectively accused the candidates of lying on an official document - not sure what the penalties are for this. If they are indeed lying, should they not also be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law where everyone is given the opportunity to defend themselves.

    Half arsed shit ... either prosecute the localists for whatever-the-charge-is or don't make a clown of yourself in the view of the world.


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    The other broader thought is that you can sense that something is brewing on both sides, and the HK government and civil service are mere pushballs in between Beijing and the youngsters.
    I have said a few weeks/months ago that a lot of anger is brewing among the youngsters. I don't know what it would be but it just takes a small flame to ignite this explosion, and I suspect that in such a scenario we could very well see boundaries crossed (on both sides) that were unthinkable just a few months ago.
    The HK politicians think they can get away with it, but I think the monster will eat its friends quicker than they believe, regardless which side will win.

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    As I said in another thread: 2047 is a lie.

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    Sorry for the typos, can't edit from mobile


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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    Changed the topic a little bit .. let me know if you want it reverted / changed to something else.
    Instead of just one Edward Leung it's the whole class of localists being excluded from the elections.

    When Hong Kong people ruling Hong Kong was technically agreed upon between the UK and the CCP (who've never agreed to test the legitimacy of their right to rule through ballot box), only one side considered thought crimes as a useful weapon in their arsenal.

    What is the UK going to do to stand up for the former colonial subjects they signed off to CCP's mercy? Rally the European Union for a common front ultimatum to stop them degrading human rights in Hong Kong?

    Repressive occupation of Tibet, systematic commercial protectionism and espionage, life support for NK dictatorship (among others), South-East Asian "maritime landgrabs", relentless drive towards authoritarian rule in Hong Kong... Shrug?
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    What is the UK going to do to stand up for the former colonial subjects they signed off to CCP's mercy? Rally the European Union for a common front ultimatum to stop them degrading human rights in Hong Kong?
    Smile and wave.

    They have no negotiating power with the EU, let alone China at the moment.
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    It's funny that the vast majority of the world's democracies (and the odd Vietnam) have grievances towards the CCP/PRC's hostile colonial-era policies, but invariably their corporate-guided governments... shrug.

    In UK's case there's actually a level of, if not legal then political and moral responsibility towards the people of Hong Kong and their civil rights. In theory.

    Hong Kong people are now being stripped of their "political rights" simply for opposing the Chinese Communist Party's unwarranted meddling in Hong Kong's internal affairs?

    Surely the issue wouldn't even arise if China was governed as a representative republic with suitably devolved regional powers and rights (to protect regional languages for instance).

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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    Half arsed shit ... either prosecute the localists for whatever-the-charge-is or don't make a clown of yourself in the view of the world.
    Seems like this is what the former bar chief is hinting at.

    “[Faking pledges] is a very serious accusation,” said Chan. “The legal system should be the one to decide whether candidates are guilty of this.”


    Chan said the government and civil servants, who should be objective and did not have legal power, were letting politics “eat into” the legal system by bypassing it and passing judgment themselves.
    Disqualifying localist Legco candidates lets politics ‘eat into’ legal system, former Bar Association chair says | South China Morning Post
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    Former Bar Association chairman criticises EAC

    Former Bar Association chairman criticises EAC - RTHK


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mefisto:
    It's funny that the vast majority of the world's democracies (and the odd Vietnam) have grievances towards the CCP/PRC's hostile colonial-era policies, but invariably their corporate-guided governments... shrug.

    In UK's case there's actually a level of, if not legal then political and moral responsibility towards the people of Hong Kong and their civil rights. In theory.

    Hong Kong people are now being stripped of their "political rights" simply for opposing the Chinese Communist Party's unwarranted meddling in Hong Kong's internal affairs?

    Surely the issue wouldn't even arise if China was governed as a representative republic with suitably devolved regional powers and rights (to protect regional languages for instance).
    UK already pretend the Anglo-Sino Joint Declaration is not exists