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    Quote Originally Posted by chichow
    what do you mean by suspension?
    Sometimes a custodial sentence is "suspended" for a period of time, meaning the convict doesn''t go to jail (he is let free), but if during this period of time he commits an offense, a term sentence (when he actually hears the clinging of the prison cell) is activated.

    Quote Originally Posted by chichow
    i guess my question really is when do they have to start their sentence?
    Immediately. As in they are in the accused box during the sentencing hearing, and after the sentence is delivered, they need to remove their tie and they are being handcuffed immediately and taken away.

    Quote Originally Posted by chichow
    and can they not appeal? wouldn't they automatically appeal
    Apparently they already said they will appeal (adding to their disgrace in my opinion), but in HK, unlike the US for certain offenses, there is no automatic appeal.
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    scmp snippet

    The judge had originally imposed a sentence of two years and six months, but he reduced it to two years after taking into account the defendants’ clear record, service to the community, stress from the long trial and during the Occupy Movement as well as their dismissal from the force and loss of pension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant
    Well, good to know that this case doesn't set a precedent for police in Hong Kong. Let's see whether the Donald goes to jail next.
    I am looking forward to the verdict in this case too, it seems the jury is still deliberating as of now.

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    Outraged Hong Kong police officers condemn court verdict in Ken Tsang assault case | South China Morning Post

    "The chairman of the Junior Police Officers’ Association, Joe Chan Cho-kwong issued a statement to all members on Friday morning and said the sentence was unacceptable"

    An anonymous person is quoted as saying “The court said the sentence should have deterrent effect as they were police. But how about those who broke the law during the Occupy Movement? They are lawyers, teachers and social worker as well who should hold high integrity. I believed political factors were behind the verdict.” which sounds like contempt. Being surprised or disappointed is fair enough but stating a judgement is politically motivated is not a good thing to say.

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    The police just come out looking like pure thugs. But it seems they do have a lot of public support and sympathy. Does that mean a lot of Hong Kongers are OK with the police going around beating up people on a whim and when they want to?

    Also this gem quote: "The evidence was broken and the news clip was edited".

    Also, very very dangerous territory claiming the judgement was politically motivated. Do the cops want the judiciary removed and they become Judge Dredd?

    Are we verging on Trump territory here?


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    Complete bullshit. The Reasons for Sentencing have been posted earlier in this thread, the judge explains in very much details - referring to previous cases - why they deserve this sentence.
    This policeman can't read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast
    Outraged Hong Kong police officers condemn court verdict in Ken Tsang assault case | South China Morning Post

    "The chairman of the Junior Police Officers’ Association, Joe Chan Cho-kwong issued a statement to all members on Friday morning and said the sentence was unacceptable"

    An anonymous person is quoted as saying “The court said the sentence should have deterrent effect as they were police. But how about those who broke the law during the Occupy Movement? They are lawyers, teachers and social worker as well who should hold high integrity. I believed political factors were behind the verdict.” which sounds like contempt. Being surprised or disappointed is fair enough but stating a judgement is politically motivated is not a good thing to say.
    Examples included a Nepalese hawker who was jailed for one year for manslaughter which caused the death of a food and hygiene officer in 2015, and a teen who hurled a brick at a police officer during the Mong Kok riot last year was put on 18 months’ probation.
    The cases the cops are comparing the sentence to are these

    Hong Kong hawker who killed officer in tussle over selling hats is jailed for one year | South China Morning Post

    Sentencing the 37-year-old at the High Court, Deputy Judge Mr Justice Brian Keith described the incident as tragic, and said: “You did not intend to harm Mr Wu, let alone to push him in such a way that will put his life in danger.”
    Hong Kong teen given 18 months’ probation for throwing brick at policeman during Mong Kok riot | South China Morning Post

    Chan Ho-man, 18, earlier pleaded guilty to one count of assault causing actual bodily harm.
    Chan Ho-man, 17, admitted to hurling a palm-sized brick at a uniformed police officer, causing the officer’s left knee to bleed, at the junction between Nathan Road and Shantung Street in the early hours of February 9.
    IMHO not really comparable 7 police officers assaulting a handcuffed civilian in a dark corner to either case cited by the police. In the first case the defendant was found not to have intended to hurt the FEHD official.

    In the second case a 17 year old kid threw one brick that hurt the left knee of a police. He also admitted to the crime(which leads to a less harsh sentence), something the police did not.

    I am sure there are numerous cases in which a number of individuals have assaulted a person,the sentences handed out in those cases would be far more comparable, but unfortunately I think the they will also show that hte sentence handed out seems to be pretty fair.
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    They got caught being stupid, beating a protester out in the open WTF, commit the crime and now do the time.

    All the older generation cops were probably like, WTF you guys doing beating him out in the open, you hold your frustration until you get back to the police station and then using a large phone book, you beat the crap out him leaving no marks. DOH


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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckster007
    They got caught being stupid, beating a protester out in the open WTF, commit the crime and now do the time.

    All the older generation cops were probably like, WTF you guys doing beating him out in the open, you hold your frustration until you get back to the police station and then using a large phone book, you beat the crap out him leaving no marks. DOH
    when CCTV is mysteriously switched off maintenance check

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAherbert
    when CCTV is mysteriously switched off maintenance check
    errr yes or use the store room LOL
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