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    Quote Originally Posted by freeier
    Aren't you conflicting ? on the one hand you are saying that MTR should break the property business out and just focus on metro. Then you are saying that MTR will have lots of cash to burn in the event business in the metro side is not doing well ? where does the money come from if the property are not generating the income ?
    I did not say that. I said the MTR need to reflect on its management practice and business model. Not separating property and rail necessarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imparanoic
    Amazingly, MTR has resumed slightly limited service from mong Kok East to hung hom within 24 hours, praises to the dedicated MTR engineering working flat out yesterday and this morning to get the service up and running.
    MTR still retains good engineers and frontline staff, I agree, hats off to them. Their management on the other hand, hmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgl
    Reduced speeds, or are the trains running at normal speeds?
    from lo wu/ lok ma chau, 50% of trains terminus is at MK east, 50% of trains terminus is at Hung hom, as they are using single track, thus, limited frequency around 6-7 mins for trains from hung hom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolboy
    MTR still retains good engineers and frontline staff, I agree, hats off to them. Their management on the other hand, hmmm...
    considering how the price of the actual mtr is affordable (relatively, few people will argue), yes, it's questionable that subsided the MTR cost from the property rent from malls (usually MTR malls have decent parking saving schemes unlike some of the other oligopolistic malls) and residential property.

    It would be interesting how Cross Rail in London is run by the MTR, assuming that it would be significantly more expensive to use than HK due to lack of subsidy from property, but will it be as expensive as the Tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeier
    Dont think MTR is enjoying that robust business in Sweden.
    The passengers are benefitting. Franchises can be given up or withdrawn, broken up etc. The focus should be the on-going benefits for the passengers not optimising the rent seeking activities of monopolies
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    Quote Originally Posted by imparanoic
    considering how the price of the actual mtr is affordable (relatively, few people will argue), yes, it's questionable that subsided the MTR cost from the property rent from malls (usually MTR malls have decent parking saving schemes unlike some of the other oligopolistic malls) and residential property.

    It would be interesting how Cross Rail in London is run by the MTR, assuming that it would be significantly more expensive to use than HK due to lack of subsidy from property, but will it be as expensive as the Tube?
    Yes, objectively-speaking of course, compared to most other metro systems in the world, the MTR still provides a very high level of service for it's passengers. Trains generally run on time, the station and carriages are clean and tidy. Signage is good and so on. The worry here though is that whether that will continue to be the case for the future, as we are seeing signs that MTR management may be taking their eyes off the ball of maintaining their arguably best metro system in the world.

    You can say people in HK are spoiled by the general efficiency and safety of the MTR and I suppose there is some truth in that, but nevertheless they do have a good reason to have high expectation of the firm. Like I said, they rely on the subway to a larger degree than many other cities in the world. The MTR literally keeps the city going and is at the heart of the public transport system. So they need the MTR to be at it's best to maintain their daily lives. If the MTR starts to go down hill, then that can be a problem for many in HK. That is the main worry here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast
    The passengers are benefitting. Franchises can be given up or withdrawn, broken up etc. The focus should be the on-going benefits for the passengers not optimising the rent seeking activities of monopolies
    then all the more we should do it as a civil service infrastructure, not as a commercial entity where the pnl are important to keep the company running.. just like what chinese cities are doing. the company doesn't have to worry about sustainability since everything can be paid for by the taxpayers

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeier
    then all the more we should do it as a civil service infrastructure, not as a commercial entity where the pnl are important to keep the company running.. just like what chinese cities are doing. the company doesn't have to worry about sustainability since everything can be paid for by the taxpayers
    oh dear

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    I saw this posted on FB, petition to Sadiq Khan to terminate the MTR contract in London because of what is happening in HK lol

    https://www.change.org/p/sadiqkhan-t...se_react=false


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