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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit
    The differences between Northern Ireland and Hong Kong are far greater than the similarities in my humble opinion.

    Comparing the IRA to the protesters is pretty fatuous as well.
    Point taken. There's not hundreds of years of repression and a religious divide in our local conflict. But, The Troubles did start with protests, then Bloody Sunday, then chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KowloonRun
    Point taken. There's not hundreds of years of repression and a religious divide in our local conflict
    For that, you need to look a little North West of here
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    arab spring in bahrain is more comparable to current HK than belfast.

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    kinda ironic this discussion, as conservative gov in early 80s had early talks about relocating hk people to belfast which quickly ended and was never published until 30 years later.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rthern-ireland


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit
    The differences between Northern Ireland and Hong Kong are far greater than the similarities in my humble opinion.

    Comparing the IRA to the protesters is pretty fatuous as well.
    Remember that before the IRA (actually the PIRA) arrived the people on the streets were peaceful protesters who became more aggressive over time. The Provos said they were there to protect the community. Later the 'defence' led to the atrocities we all know. Which led, after thousands of unnecessary deaths, to the Good Friday Agreement.

    While the history and the causes are different the similarity is in the suppression of legal protests, stubborn partisan politicians, police brutality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KowloonRun
    Point taken. There's not hundreds of years of repression and a religious divide in our local conflict. But, The Troubles did start with protests, then Bloody Sunday, then chaos.
    There is a cultural, ethnic and language divide that is being deliberately created by the one-way permit scheme, excessive "tourism" and the promotion of Mandarin at the expense of the traditional languages of HK.
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    The cultural divide between HK and Mainlanders is at least as wide as the religious divide between protestants and catholics was. Possibly wider.
    It's a local community being run by a "bigger neighbour" that nobody likes.
    Young people with no feeling of ownership of their community or a future.
    Peaceful protest being suppressed and turning into violence.
    If the PLA come in I see the NI outcome being the likely scenario, not an outlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imparanoic
    kinda ironic this discussion, as conservative gov in early 80s had early talks about relocating hk people to belfast which quickly ended and was never published until 30 years later.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rthern-ireland
    As dire as the situation is, this scenario would make an amazing plot for a Yes, Minister episode....

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    Quote Originally Posted by imparanoic
    arab spring in bahrain is more comparable to current HK than belfast.
    i think Hong Kong's situation is similar to Kashmir...

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/13...-empire-sowed/
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