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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Wouldn't one need to be convicted by a judge in order to be proven to engage in criminal activity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthieuTofu:
    A quick reminder that people have been mocking police officers about the fact that they don't need a degree to work in the police force.
    https://twitter.com/antd/status/1195212989525188608
    Irregardless of the Police comment. I'm commenting more on the ffact that you don;t need a degree. You don't need a degree to do many jobs, vocational jobs, it shouldn't be an insult that you don;t need a degree to do a job, if anything it plays into the private education sector who are very happy to have academic inflation as it means they can charge more for degrees.

    Jobs that didn;t need a bachelorrs degree are starting to demand one, and jobs that did require bachelors degrees now have preference for masters degrees, even though the vast majority of what they will learn will not be applied in their work.

    It's a bad trap to fall into to use that as an insult, it's one of the prime reasons US university tuition fees increases are one of the highest inflation busting price rises in the past 20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoista:
    It's a bad trap to fall into to use that as an insult, it's one of the prime reasons US university tuition fees increases are one of the highest inflation busting price rises in the past 20 years.
    Whataboutary!!!!!


    The police often appear to be following dumb orders. Mocking police is fair game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoista:
    Irregardless of the Police comment. I'm commenting more on the ffact that you don;t need a degree. You don't need a degree to do many jobs, vocational jobs, it shouldn't be an insult that you don;t need a degree to do a job, if anything it plays into the private education sector who are very happy to have academic inflation as it means they can charge more for degrees.

    Jobs that didn;t need a bachelorrs degree are starting to demand one, and jobs that did require bachelors degrees now have preference for masters degrees, even though the vast majority of what they will learn will not be applied in their work.

    It's a bad trap to fall into to use that as an insult, it's one of the prime reasons US university tuition fees increases are one of the highest inflation busting price rises in the past 20 years.
    You should try talking to parents at local school if you tell them you would be OK with your kid in a vocation or trade : the looks : their kids are pushed unbelievable even from primary looking to get a uni place :

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkong7:
    You should try talking to parents at local school if you tell them you would be OK with your kid in a vocation or trade : the looks : their kids are pushed unbelievable even from primary looking to get a uni place :
    I agree, the marketing from education industries is deep rooted, it's why the private education sector is highly profitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    Whataboutary!!!!!


    The police often appear to be following dumb orders. Mocking police is fair game.
    Not if it involved mocking other people who don't have degrees (plumblers, electricians, car mechanics, sales agentsm cleaners, clerical staff, catering industry etc.), you;re effectively also saying anyone who doesn;t have a degree is only dumb, or the reverse insult anyone who doesn;t have a degree is only good enough to work for Police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoista:
    Not if it involved mocking other people who don't have degrees (plumblers, electricians, car mechanics, sales agentsm cleaners, clerical staff, catering industry etc.), you;re effectively also saying anyone who doesn;t have a degree is only dumb, or the reverse insult anyone who doesn;t have a degree is only good enough to work for Police.
    I you want to look at it at this angle you surely can but I would hope that most people would understand it is a relative comparison to other civil servants who tend to be top of their respective classes. If such taunts were made at plumbers, fitters, cleaners road layers etc you may have a point but the targeted nature of the taunt clearer identifies it as one particular group of well paid, underworked (most of the time) civil servants.

    But again if you want it to be a general class struggle type of thing you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkong7:
    You should try talking to parents at local school if you tell them you would be OK with your kid in a vocation or trade : the looks : their kids are pushed unbelievable even from primary looking to get a uni place :
    Which developed city are we talking about?

    The lack of development in the tertiary education sector in HK in the last 25 years is appalling governance which makes the need to excel at school even more apparent as there is very limited alternative routes.
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