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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthieuTofu:
    For better housing, throw money at developers, for better political stability and justice system, throw money at the police?

    Beginning to see a pattern underlying the recurrent failures of the pro-establishment people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthieuTofu:
    No mention of foreign sausage, that letter is positively courteous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthieuTofu:
    If only there were not three million videos on the Internet
    disproving everything that police PR gimp said about appropriate use of force. Twenty years ago there might have gotten away with such bace faced lies, but not any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    If only there were not three million videos on the Internet
    disproving everything that police PR gimp said about appropriate use of force. Twenty years ago there might have gotten away with such bace faced lies, but not any more.
    But they are getting away with it and it's vile to witness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William06:
    But they are getting away with it and it's vile to witness.
    Well if their tactics now are to kettle and mass arrest attendees of peaceful marches with a LONO, it won’t be long before guerilla tactics might seem both a logical and justifiable response. The firebombing of the blue restaurant (accused of harbouring some attackers of protesters), if really the responsibility of radical protesters, may be one indication of that.

    scmp.com/news/hong-kong/law-and-crime/article/3044814/hong-kong-restaurant-firebombed-black-clad-attackers
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    Hong Kong police accuse opposition lawmaker Claudia Mo of spreading ‘fake news’ on the force in interview she gave to British channel
    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ker-claudia-mo

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    No, they’re not Hitler’s Gestapo, the former Soviet Union’s KGB or the murderous Tonton Macoute that kept Haiti’s notoriously corrupt Duvalier clan in power for nearly 30 years.
    I disagreed with the first sentence, so I didn't bother reading the rest.

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    The year ahead
    By Sir Hemlock


    [...] CCP has a phobia of civil unrest, and is especially paranoid about the possibility of an anti-government movement crossing the border. Its dilemma is that it can’t envisage or countenance anything other than physical and other coercion. Some relatively simple concessions could win over moderates and isolate radicals. But the idea of bowing to public will is abhorrent to China’s leaders in principle, and they have a particular fear of relaxing control or accommodating political reform.

    So Beijing can only subjugate the movement through repression.

    Examples of clamping-down so far include: tentative use of emergency laws; airlines firing staff, and government threatening schools, teachers and civil servants for their opinions; authorities targeting protest-related fund-raising, and maybe indirectly donors; stepped-up police action such as mass-arrests and deployment of provocateurs. Perhaps wary of public opinion or the courts, officials seem nervous about such measures – which clearly have ‘Liaison Office pressure’ stamped on them.

    The sudden appointment of Luo Huining at the Liaison Office raises the possibility of a change in direction. Maybe he will ‘reach out’ and try to absorb moderate opposition into a more representative political structure to win hearts and minds. But that’s not how he tamed Tibetans in Qinghai and corrupt officials and cronies in Shanxi. (By all accounts, he relied heavily on economic-development ‘carrots’ as well as disciplinary ‘sticks’. This does not look good for our local parasitical tycoon caste.)

    That points to more decisive Mainlandization to come in 2020. Expect greater pressure on corporations and institutions to regulate employees’ views, cooperate with police anti-protest tactics, and to openly support the government line. Similar pressure on civil society. Loyalty tests for teachers and civil servants. Intimidation of opposition figures, perhaps by extra-legal means (triads, in plain language). Propaganda in schools (loyalists are already fussing about textbooks). Ditto RTHK. More surveillance (facial-recognition cameras, etc). Infiltration of opposition groups.

    Happy new year...
    Last edited by Mefisto; 08-01-2020 at 11:13 PM.
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