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    Quote Originally Posted by AsianXpat0:
    The wonderful thing was them being taken aside, masks removed, bunched up in groups of five, then photographed with people they did not know as “breaking the law”. The alternative was of course to refuse the police direction to break the law, which of course leads again to physical abuse and potential “resisting an officer” charges. How nice to have them out of control and a law unto themselves.
    Indeed, this is shocking, but not unexpected. Lets hope any judge will see this for what it is. It probably won't make court though, just hang it out as long as possible, keep the natives scared, and then drop it a year later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickyears:
    Indeed, this is shocking, but not unexpected. Lets hope any judge will see this for what it is. It probably won't make court though, just hang it out as long as possible, keep the natives scared, and then drop it a year later.
    The problem is the remedy is inadequate when it’s not isolated instances of injustice and redemption, but systematic acts in bad faith and repression. Agree that the courts will probably not be called on to endorse such arrests, but the oppression can continue.
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    The bar for a police state seems to be getting lower these days...

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/uk/uk-police-coronavirus-tactics-gbr-intl-scli/index.html


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    Sad day for those hoping the courts will provide a bulwark for protection against police abuse, or an acknowledgement of realities.
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    @eIIe did the right thing quoting the gist of the article here, albeit in the slightly wrong thread.

    The police brought a challenge over a lower court's ruling in October 2017 that officers can only search an arrestee's mobile in "exigent circumstances".

    Such emergency situations were taken to mean, for example, when there was a need to prevent an imminent threat to the public or police, to prevent the imminent loss or destruction of evidence, or to look for evidence in "extremely urgent and vulnerable" situations.

    But in a judgement published on Thursday afternoon, three judges sided with the police that a warrant should not be required to search phones in all other situations.

    The judgement says that in circumstances when it is not "reasonably practicable" to obtain a warrant, officers can search the contents of a suspect's mobile phone if they have "a reasonable basis for having to conduct the search immediately", either to investigate an offence the suspect is believed to be involved with, or for obtaining and preserving information or evidence connected to such offences; or for the safety of others.

    Since the 'police' have already been committing criminal acts against the population with total impunity it looks like these kangaroo judges are simply codifying that impunity in 'law'.

    Looking forward to the next ruling soon entitling the regime paramilitaries to use any form of torture they may find convenient in order to 'secure compliance' whenever and for whatever reason.



    Meanwhile, everyone get a WIFI/BT-only tablet (full encryption naturally) for all the traditional smartphone stuff and a separate Nokia "feature phone" to act as a data link.

    "Here's my Nokia phone, Sir Officer Sir, but I don't have to unlock my diary-tablet to just anyone in the street without a court order..."

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    For those who don’t read SCMP:

    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...7-20200403.htm

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