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    Quote Originally Posted by shri
    Yes, I do agree that in this case, the end justified the means or motivation in the short term.

    In the long term (you know .. that whole "he's a perfect candidate for CE because he negotiated his way in") the motivations and the back story might be a bit more important.
    I wouldn't bet my life on the integrity of any politician in Hong Kong but most of them have been useless so far so he still gets a point for this effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imparanoic
    he does not seem to be a hardliner and never seem to be when he was president of legco, furthermore, just like the good friday agreement, he believes compromise should be made by all sides and he even suggested an amnesty a few days, in my books, sounds like a moderate to me.
    Read articles posted on when he was president of Legco, calling any pro-dem "criminals" in closed whatsapp groups and behind the scenes discussions. You wouldn't label the founder of the CCP front in HK, known for blindly following Beijing's instructions without fail as a hardliner? It was basically his very job these past decades to set up a hardline front. Please consider this.
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    This shit is like playing snakes and ladders ... badly.

    https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1196658491076669440

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatts
    Read articles posted on when he was president of Legco, calling any pro-dem "criminals" in closed whatsapp groups and behind the scenes discussions. You wouldn't label the founder of the CCP front in HK, known for blindly following Beijing's instructions without fail as a hardliner? It was basically his very job these past decades to set up a hardline front. Please consider this.
    his interview with HKFP seems to suggest otherwise, I am not saying that I trust him throughout, nearly all politician (on all sides) have their own hidden agenda as far as i aware, he stated that the balance act between central gov and people of HK which he serves, which is big contrast to Ms Incompenet, stubborn like a mule and shoe licking Ms Lam.

    https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/11/1...ongs-struggle/
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    Quote Originally Posted by imparanoic
    his interview with HKFP seems to suggest otherwise, I am not saying that I trust him throughout, nearly all politician (on all sides) have their own hidden agenda as far as i aware, he stated that the balance act between central gov and people of HK which he serves, which is big contrast to Ms Incompenet, stubborn like a mule and shoe licking Ms Lam.

    https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/11/1...ongs-struggle/
    The thing is, like the pro-democrats, the pro-establishment camp is also rivened with internal divisions and power struggles. There is no love lost between the pro-business end of the camp, like the Liberal Party, and the more pro-union/working class end of the camp that Tsang and his brother originally belong. Only the HK government, and above that the Liasion Office and Beijing, holds the pro-establishment camp together through it's directives and instructions on how to vote in Legco, etc. Some in the pro-establishment camp have a little more leeway to stake out an independent position while others are under the direct control of the CCP and must follow their orders to the letter.
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    Or has Tsang mellowed in old age?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paxbritannia
    Or has Tsang mellowed in old age?
    Just cannier. Proper politician understands how to cultivate his image, unlike the plutocratic or bureaucratic employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imparanoic
    his interview with HKFP seems to suggest otherwise, I am not saying that I trust him throughout, nearly all politician (on all sides) have their own hidden agenda as far as i aware, he stated that the balance act between central gov and people of HK which he serves, which is big contrast to Ms Incompenet, stubborn like a mule and shoe licking Ms Lam.

    https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/11/1...ongs-struggle/
    It is not about all politicians, what Tsang and Lam have in common is blind obedience to Beijing, with Tsang's track record of doing so stretching much longer in time then Lam even. Besides the fact that Tsang is much better in words and ways of expressing Beijing's will doesn't make the truth any different.

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