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    Quote Originally Posted by pin:
    Waiting for numbers in other countriesnro increase first.
    Like some of the other countries that don't even test for asymptomatic nor symptomatic cases from which we're now important a huge amount of active cases as they were allowed to board flights without any form of health checks. These are now the people clogging up the hospitals. Asymptomatic cases from China aren't our problem.
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    Young people can also die from the virus, even if it's statistically uncommon... This comes after the passing of a 16 year old in France last week.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronav...19-in-belgium/


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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...viously-stated

    figures that suggest almost one in four coronavirus deaths are occurring outside hospitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    Like some of the other countries that don't even test for asymptomatic nor symptomatic cases from which we're now important a huge amount of active cases as they were allowed to board flights without any form of health checks. These are now the people clogging up the hospitals. Asymptomatic cases from China aren't our problem.
    It may of been helpful if they published the presence of a large proportion of asymptomatic cases to allow other nations to set-up appropriate health forms for better track and trace as soonas they knew.
    Last edited by East_coast; 31-03-2020 at 08:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    It may of been helpful if they published the presence of a large proportion of asymptomatic cases to allow other nations to set-up appropriate health forms for better track and trace
    Asymptomatic cases appearing in China get isolated in China. Not sure how they would be traceable overseas.

    Now let's turn this around. Symptomatic patients can leave the UK untraced and turn up in Hong Kong.

    Please state which system is more successful at containment. Then apply the same to Italy and you will find the reason why cases all over the world exploded.

    Iceland has done an extremely good job of testing a large segment of their population. Can you point out their imported cases of asymptomatic Chinese carriers? Now tell me which list from China would have allowed Iceland to escape their fate?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020...mic_in_Iceland

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    LA Times report: https://geoexpat.com/forum/342/threa...ml#post3710707

    since breathing, talking, spread droplets then singing, in Karaoke, in a choir, or in church must be superspreading droplets, that might explain the HK cases

    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...4-20200331.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    It may of been helpful if they published the presence of a large proportion of asymptomatic cases to allow other nations to set-up appropriate health forms for better track and trace as soonas they knew.
    Here we have Sweden's cases.

    Import from China: 1
    Import from Italy:. 50+

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020...emic_in_Sweden

    I don't think asymptomatic Chinese carriers were the problem. Some may have carried the virus overseas as in a case in Bavaria Germany, but in that case it was actually China that notified Germany when she returned to China. In other words, the tracing was done by China. The EU failed in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civil_servant:
    In other words, the tracing was done by China. The EU failed in that regard.
    Your analysis does seem correct other countries did seem un-prepared for the way the virus could be transmitted. If only there was a global body that could of worked with the country with the first outbreak to ensure transparency.

    https://www.ft.com/content/2a70a02a-...d-df28cc3c6a68


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    Dr Aylward said Chinese health officials did not want to refer to the pathogen as “dangerous” as they regarded such terminology as reserved for diseases with higher mortality rates.

    Chinese health officials also refused to include any reference to avoiding a “second wave” of coronavirus in the report, he said, so they compromised on “a surge” or “resurgence”.

    Dale Fisher, an infectious disease specialist at the National University of Singapore, said the team’s Chinese counterparts requested the report not make reference to a “dangerous pathogen”

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