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National Security Law - Passed - 30th June 2020

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  1. #81

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    So what's gonna happen when Joshua Wong is arrested under the NSL? That's only a matter of when not if, at this point. Then he will be a martyr.


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    Not verified, I guess we'll see later...

    https://twitter.com/bakeentot...49760101183488

    Last edited by shri; 01-07-2020 at 10:47 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stickyears:
    Not verified, I guess we'll see later...

    https://twitter.com/bakeentotsu/status/1278149760101183488
    English on the reverse side apparently...

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Coolboy:
    So what's gonna happen when Joshua Wong is arrested under the NSL? That's only a matter of when not if, at this point. Then he will be a martyr.
    This may be overoptimistic, but there's a chance they hold off on actually doing this to prove how the law rarely needs to be used, is mostly a deterrent, etc. A way of responding to the foreign criticism as well without losing face (or powers) by having withdrawn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prospectiveHKer:
    This may be overoptimistic, but there's a chance they hold off on actually doing this to prove how the law rarely needs to be used, is mostly a deterrent, etc. A way of responding to the foreign criticism as well without losing face (or powers) by having withdrawn it.
    I hope you are right for HK's sake, but I have my doubts. Beijing is in their hardline ideological mode, where ideology trumps reason. They miscalculated by pushing this law, they will miscalculate again by arresting Wong. Xi is the hardliner who does not care about international reaction, remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trance Omega:
    How safe are posts and opinions on Geo now?
    https://twitter.com/XinqiSu/status/1...682848768?s=19
    https://twitter.com/BethanyAl...36952114614272

    Geo? They purport to have jurisdiction over the world, so if you publish anything in some town paper in Nebraska or something, or back of a barn for that matter, they can nab you.

    Just like in China, you’re safe until you aren’t. Some posters have provided the “reassurance” anyone here is likely to be much lower down the totem pole of their hit list. They should basically be relying on self-censorship, and you might feel a lot less unsafe if you didn’t have your actual identity tied to your account...
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    From today's press conference.

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    https://twitter.com/maryhui/s...67590813065216


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolboy:
    Yep. If blocking public transport is a terrorist crime that can imprison you for life, then basically any actvity the government doesn't like can fall under NSL.
    https://twitter.com/whitebiso...34477298872321
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  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    From today's press conference.



    https://twitter.com/maryhui/s...67590813065216
    This seems intended to create an atmosphere of fear more than anything. The text of the law requires a connection between "inciting hatred" and "foreign groups," at least. Not to say such connections couldn't be made up, but he seems to be misconstruing the contents of the text.

    Of course maybe he's referring to a situation in which the mainland exercises jurisdiction, but it's hard to imagine they're going to exercise that every time someone criticizes the police. After all, they put a whole local apparatus into operation, presumably for the minor stuff.
    Last edited by prospectiveHKer; 01-07-2020 at 11:46 AM.
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    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...abChangeable=0

    "Luo also referred to a signature campaign by a pro-Beijing alliance last month, saying that the fact they had collected around 2.9 million signatures in eight days showed that the public wanted the national security law, and that its implementation will ensure peace and stability for the people of Hong Kong."

    Witnessed this campaign first hand, pretty disgusting! They were doing the rounds around public housing estates ect giving out free masks if you signed said piece of paper, none of the ppl were reading what they were signing, instead calling family, FREE MASKS!
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