Sweden abandons previous covid policy

[TheBrit]

Much lauded on here by some of the less scientifically able members, Sweden has done a 180 and admitted they got it completely wrong at the start.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/long-a-...61658?mod=e2fb

Deaths per million now worse in Sweden than even the US.

[hongkong7]

Much lauded on here by some of the less scientifically able members, Sweden has done a 180 and admitted they got it completely wrong at the start.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/long-a-...61658?mod=e2fb

Deaths per million now worse in Sweden than even the US.

They get a big fat fail as my chemistry teacher used to say

[Cornmeal]

Here are the top 30 worst deaths per capita:

		Country, Other	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Tot Cases/ 1M pop	Deaths/ 1M pop	Total Tests	Tests/ 1M pop	Population
1	Belgium		589,942	+2,503	17,254	+112	533,503	753	50,807	1,486	6,082,316	523,818	11,611,513
2	San Marino		1,789		48		329	8	52,677	1,413	19,028	560,273	33,962
3	Peru		973,912	+1,224	36,274	+43	29,984	987	29,362	1,094	5,167,466	155,790	33,169,459
4	Andorra		7,050	+45	78		734	20	91,181	1,009	168,635	2,181,029	77,319
5	Italy		1,728,878	+18,887	60,078	+564	755,306	3,454	28,613	994	23,125,664	382,729	60,423,049
6	Spain		1,699,145		46,252		N/A	2,371	36,336	989	22,992,742	491,690	46,762,664
7	North Macedonia		67,968	+657	1,924	+23	22,398	138	32,625	924	348,795	167,421	2,083,337
8	Bosnia and Herzegovina		94,507	+739	2,952	+30	32,930		28,885	902	438,057	133,885	3,271,884
9	UK		1,723,242	+17,272	61,245	+231	N/A	1,274	25,327	900	44,812,139	658,608	68,040,655
10	Argentina		1,463,110	+3,278	39,770	+138	128,648	3,735	32,245	876	4,101,188	90,384	45,374,992
11	USA		15,159,529	+173,861	288,906	+1,076	6,015,030	26,448	45,683	871	207,456,975	625,164	331,843,917
12	Montenegro		38,246	+367	533	+3	10,714	68	60,891	849	143,533	228,519	628,101
13	Mexico		1,168,395	+11,625	109,456	+593	199,476	3,363	9,021	845	3,005,228	23,203	129,517,418
14	France		2,292,497	+11,022	55,155	+174	2,067,756	3,220	35,088	844	21,041,852	322,054	65,336,312
15	Slovenia		85,805	+1,030	1,744	+44	20,481	197	41,271	839	555,886	267,373	2,079,062
16	Czechia		546,833	+1,116	8,902	+72	59,837	576	51,022	831	3,190,257	297,665	10,717,622
17	Brazil		6,603,540	+26,363	176,962	+321	650,396	8,318	30,971	830	25,700,000	120,536	213,213,576
18	Chile		560,382	+1,714	15,628	+36	9,965	658	29,206	815	5,537,774	288,619	19,187,149
19	Armenia		141,937	+978	2,326	+17	22,815		47,860	784	528,876	178,334	2,965,652
20	Ecuador		197,998	+607	13,778	+22	10,032	356	11,150	776	672,259	37,856	17,758,178
21	Bolivia		145,492	+167	8,992	+5	11,904	71	12,391	766	368,251	31,363	11,741,545
22	Colombia		1,371,103	+8,854	37,808	+175	75,885	2,376	26,823	740	6,737,972	131,815	51,116,937
23	Panama		177,719	+1,812	3,193	+20	21,636	161	40,912	735	980,089	225,622	4,343,939
24	Sweden		278,912		7,067		N/A	249	27,543	698	3,457,247	341,404	10,126,550
25	Bulgaria		161,421	+577	4,797	+68	94,378	516	23,308	693	1,016,807	146,820	6,925,518
26	Romania		513,576	+5,231	12,320	+134	95,644	1,289	26,775	642	4,255,481	221,854	19,181,480
27	Switzerland		344,497		5,349	+25	78,548	465	39,679	616	2,836,245	326,680	8,682,019
28	Hungary		250,278	+6,697	5,868	+162	172,728	656	25,937	608	1,941,724	201,222	9,649,643
29	Sint Maarten		1,139	+19	26		96	6	26,436	603	7,893	183,192	43,086
30	Moldova		116,365	+808	2,419	+16	12,702	281	28,876	600	482,229	119,664	4,029,871

[GentleGeorge]

There is only one medium-large sized country that has handled this well, and their strategy is now paying dividends

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-e...irus-lockdowns

[Aramis]

There is only one medium-large sized country that has handled this well, and their strategy is now paying dividends

Oh yes China has handled it so well silencing doctors, exporting the disease while lying about it, influencing WHO policies and calling out other countries trying to prevent them from sending their infected citizen around the world. Yeah, that was a great strategy and I sure hope the rest of the world will remember and pay them back in spades.

[GentleGeorge]

Oh yes China has handled it so well silencing doctors, exporting the disease while lying about it, influencing WHO policies and calling out other countries trying to prevent them from sending their infected citizen around the world. Yeah, that was a great strategy and I sure hope the rest of the world will remember and pay them back in spades.

They pretty clearly got it badly wrong for about a month.

The rest of the world has got it wrong for 9 months and counting.

[mrgoodkat]

There is only one medium-large sized country that has handled this well, and their strategy is now paying dividends

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-e...irus-lockdowns

Lol, only a moron would believe that China's exports actually grew. The rest of the world has hardly been consuming for the last 9 months, and certainly not 21% more than last year. Exports are up, but somehow office vacancies are also up while rents are down and outskirts of Dongguan and Huizhou are like a ghost town now. The SCMP had articles like that only 3 months ago:

https://amp.scmp.com/economy/china-e...actories-winds

https://amp.scmp.com/economy/china-e...nt-workers-and

https://amp.scmp.com/economy/china-e...ed-stay-cities

[TheBrit]

Emergency lockdown legislation, recommendations for face masks and school closures..... Sweden is finally getting to grips with the coronavirus and now looks like an abject failure compared to Norway.

https://www.ft.com/content/b376ae27-...d-8507de9dcb7e

Those posters lauding the Swedish approach have fallen very quiet about it in the past few months.

[Sage]

The point, lost so easily on those who view the world only through prisms of black and White is that Sweden responds to the facts and acts accordingly.

If in winter (as was always predicted) the situation worsens significantly, then more drastic measures are prudent. Just like in summer when the impact of Covid was small, a more liberal approach was optimal.

[hullexile]

The point, lost so easily on those who view the world only through prisms of black and White is that Sweden responds to the facts and acts accordingly.

If in winter (as was always predicted) the situation worsens significantly, then more drastic measures are prudent. Just like in summer when the impact of Covid was small, a more liberal approach was optimal.

Sweden (population 10 million) has passed the Philippines (population 110 million) in both cases and deaths. Good to see they are responding to facts and science. 10 months too late but at least they have the ability to admit they were wrong.