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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix2:
    The big question is how do you make political systems so people who are psychopaths and have narcisistic personality disorder don't getting into power....
    A system that doesn't let them keep power is the best we have as far as I am aware. Do you know of a better system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    A system that doesn't let them keep power is the best we have as far as I am aware. Do you know of a better system?
    On that topic, here is the Economist's take on the relative worthiness of different governments: https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...-very-bad-year

    France was demoted to 'flawed democracy' this year because its 2020 lockdowns reduced civil liberty.

    I suspect we need a better measure of worthiness.

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    Any country that can rid itself of a bad leader is a better place to be. IMO.

    Cannot do that in China, including HK, of course.

    But that's the point of the CCP, and other authoritarian regimes: leaders select amongst themselves, the masses must accept and obey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobin:
    Any country that can rid itself of a bad leader is a better place to be. IMO.

    Cannot do that in China, including HK, of course.

    But that's the point of the CCP, and other authoritarian regimes: leaders select amongst themselves, the masses must accept and obey.
    Which is why its important to remember, just as China and Russia right now is gleefully pointing to the US Capitol riot as an unmistakable failure in democracies, they should remember US democracy has never produced a monster like Stalin or Mao. Or if the US did, those deranged people would be promptly removed from office.
    Last edited by Coolboy; 03-02-2021 at 08:13 AM.
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    Also Taiwan has moved up to 11th position and has been upgraded from "flawed democracy" to "full democracy". Proof that a Chinese nation is compatible with democracy.

    Note that in compliance with the national security law, I am referring to Taiwan ambiguously as "nation" which means "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory." which, regardless of its status of country or not, is undeniably true.
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    The British left 24 years ago. Cant blame them for lingering problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDevil_666:
    The British left 24 years ago. Cant blame them for lingering problems.
    Yes you can. Twenty four years is nothing.
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    You've got to be kidding. This is nearly a quarter century. Look at what China has achieved during this time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hullexile:
    Yes you can. Twenty four years is nothing.
    The root problem was that Britian governed HK as a colony. When China recovered HK, it inherited the colonial structure and continue to rule HK in some way as a colony.

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