LeaveHomeSafe - No longer "Voluntary"

[ByeByeEngland]

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...2-20210220.htm

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...6-20210220.htm

[shri]

Typical.. Now we have fake apps to go along with fake vaccines.

[merchantms]

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They don’t care about expats, most of them are high earners who contribute to the tax base and have zero interest in local politics. Many expats here have worked in mainland or have regular cross border business and do so with no issues. Very few of us here and we’re not that important.

[ByeByeEngland]

I have no issues with people not wanting to use the app or using a burner to do so if they leave proper contact details. If you're Jimmy Lai, it seems sensible. For 98% of the population, it seems paranoid but whatever floats people's boat. What do I care if the government knows I've been to a particular restaurant or building? I have issues with people trying to game the system, lying and hiding to avoid being found in case of necessary testing. The excuse that the government might all of a sudden round up everyone that's been in a particular location and send them to quarantine is again somewhat paranoid though they did put a bunch of kids and teachers doing exams in a hall which seemed a bit over the top. The more likely and sensible path is that people be informed/tracked to be tested. I accept the risk of being quarantined because the flip side of hiding myself while being positive and infecting/sending potentially dozens of others into quarantine/hospital as one moron did is simply just too selfish, if anyone was that irresponsible, I would fire/ditch them in a nanosecond. Ironically the reason why harder quarantine and stricter tracing is necessary is illustrated here by the amount of people that are quite happy to flout rules because they are more concerned about themselves than the risk to others. I certainly don't disagree that there are flaws and inconsistencies in the government's approach but if they are trying ways to open up businesses more quickly and being more selective in targeted closures/testing, I'm all for that instead of everything being shutdown.

the problem with the quarantine rules isn’t actually the people flouting them. It is the leniency of the sentences handed down for those breaking the rules. We are still seeing cases coming to court from home quarantine breaches. Apart from the infamous guy that went on the run and got a hefty sentence for it a 14 day stretch and a comparatively notional fine seems to be the norm meted out.

I had to set my boundaries before activating the app in the hotel. If there was a QT tracing app of any worth and a tracing bracelet that sent an alert if tampered with both home and hotel quarantine could be done on much more sensible terms. Home QT doesn’t stop people from mixing but there are spot checks.

Combine all that with a much higher financial threshold and much stiffer sentences and I believe they could reduce QT to 14 plus 7 days at home and still keep the 12 and 19 day testing.

[mrgoodkat]

Typical.. Now we have fake apps to go along with fake vaccines.

In a statement issued on Saturday, authorities say they have noticed a growing number of fake LeaveHomeSafe apps, adding that the suspected cases have been referred to the police for investigation.

Using a fake app isn't actually illegal, is it? The requirement is for businesses to post the QR code. There is no requirement for you to use the app to scan it.

[merchantms]

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...lies-and-abuse

[William06]

Some of you might not know this, but GeoExpat has a feature where you can read messages from future years. I found this one from 2023 which I thought was pretty interesting:

Thx! Made my day.
This is black mirror material.

[Sage]

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...lies-and-abuse

Hong Kong's Covid-19 contact tracers put up with lies and abuse.... thanks to government's quarantine policy.

[Editor]

A new app will be introduced at the end of this month that will allow restaurants to check the vaccination records of diners, an industry veteran said.


https://www.thestandard.com.hk/secti...-vaccine-fears