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  1. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by merchantms:
    I am not justifying the quarantine rules but as I have no power to change them, I take control of what I can. Your forceful posting here will not make any difference to the policies in HK. And like I said, it’s odd to want to leave fake details at the sports center when many people advocating lying to deter contact tracing are easily identifiable on Geo based on what they voluntarily post!
    Who are you referring to that you can identify from Geo?

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    I think I am right in saying on behalf of us in the anti-camp that if we had more cast iron assurances that QR tracking was wholly independent and limited to just contact tracing and mandatory testing then the vast majority of us would get the app in an instant.

    We are not trying to be clever, we are still trying to be Covid cautious but not at the expense of complete unknowns where the depths of the Apps current possibilities and usage are unknown and certainly don't 'appear to be' independent.

    Also I still don't believe that in its incessant and unrealistic drive for zero cases the government won't insist that contact cases to a positive tester won't immediately be summoned to mandatory gov't facility QT without any testing beforehand
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    Looks like we’re trapped in this open-close-open-close hell for a lot longer then. Sigh.


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    The flip side of all that is that if indeed someone gets infected, he/she can't get notified of the risk and then goes around spreading it with friends, family and coworkers and potentially sending a whole pile more people into quarantine just like one moron did during CNY.

    And if everyone has the same approach then it's more likely restaurants, gyms, salons etc will get shut down again and sooner... The workers employed at these businesses will all very grateful of you carrying the torch against the evil HK government and the puppet masters of the CCP and hey you stuck it to the man so it's all worth it...


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    Hospital Union protesting over the app saying its to spy on people. Even the HK govt denies it and they are pissed about it.

    https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...abChangeable=0

    Last edited by gardabble; 19-02-2021 at 07:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aw451:
    I just tested the app and it pulls the infection data from this API every time you check in and out of a venue.

    https://www.regqr.gov.hk/app/v2/batc...h.json?noembed
    Does it retry if you checkout with no connection - e.g. while in airplane mode?

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    As what cal just said above... all the app’s functionalities could easily be done by recording where you’ve dined at in a diary (or even just take photos of the food and restaurant or something) and paying more or less attention to the news every night after the daily 4:30pm CHP press conference.

    The only ‘advantage’ of the app seems to be if and when the government starts imposing more stringent mandatory testing.


  8. #88

    Can the government "gain more trust" if they just open-sourced the app (including server-side) and prove to people that it's not doing anything funny with personal data?

    I think there are plenty like https://github.com/opentrace-community or https://opensource.com/article/20/7/...ontact-tracing


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    Well... 2 and a half days after implementation, I can say that LESS people seem to be dining in at lunchtime than prior to mandatory contact tracing.


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    1) Why connect to their wifi I have my own data plan? If I did connect to their wifi (highly unlikely) is the HK govt set up (AND is pac coffee set up) to get/supply that info quickly and easily to trace people and 'do their bidding'?

    2) I didn't pay, my friend paid. And he used his octopus which is anonymous.

    Do you understand how your comparison between the LHS app and other aspects of daily life is poor?

    And finally, Yes, sorry to agree with you on this, but you do sound paranoid. Frankly living with that kind of constant background stress is much more likely to be dangerous to your long term health than covid, which is still vanishingly rare in HK and mild in most people.

    You obviously know that you have an immune system, designed to cope with germs picked up off a dirty spoon, do you have a good reason why you don't trust it?
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