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    March 12 - 60+ Cases - Mostly URSUS

    March 12th: 60 cases expected

    Press Conference @ 1630

    1. Head of the Communicable Disease Branch of the Centre for Health Protection of the Department of Health, Dr Chuang Shuk-kwan
    2. Hospital Authority Chief Manager (Clinical Effectiveness and Technology Management), Dr Linda Yu
    https://youtu.be/Ik4W-ZOiIBw
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    Press conference seems to be running late today - 4:35-45PM start

    Today's Stats

    • Total Cases: 60 Cases
    • International Cases 6 Imported -
    • Local Cases 5 local untraced cases and 49 linked.
    • 47 URSUS - 40 Customers and 7 close contacts. Total - 64 cases - 7 staff, 50 customers and 7 close contacts. Earliest onset was 6th of March and some on 10-11 March.
    • 5 Local Cases - 1 student (mentioned yesterday) + family members who is prelim positive, 1 security guard, 1 housewife (a friend is also confirmed), 1 case Kowloon Bay (not sure what the occupation or address is) - this patient had meals with family members + rock climbing with friends / family. 1 attendant in the TKO exhibition center.
    • 20 Preliminary Positive + few untraced - Many related to URSUS.
    • Untraced - Maintenance worker from HK Sanatorium, 1 Personal Trainer - not confirmed as URSUS contact - "One PP" - H-CORE, 35 year old woman - recent mother and stays at home and gave birth on the 4th of March (tested negative but found positive on follow up).
    • 16 discharges, 206 in the system - 13 critical something something - new translator



    Today's Announcements

    • Fitness Centers - Compulsory testing notices in many (or all) gyms before 14th March.
    • Workplaces need to have floorplans, seating plans, staff numbers etc ready for contact tracing.
    • AWE patients will be moved to North Lantau Center. AWE will be put in stand-by mode. More than 3000 people have been through this facility.


    Q&A

    • Earliest Case Confirmed at URSUS? Any New Gyms Today?

      6th of March is a customer. Not sure if its primary case in this cluster. Other gyms have been visited - ultimate in SYP, Pure Fitness in Central / Wanchai, HK-Core, Optimum Performance, HIT, Fitness Culture, Pure Yoga and a bunch of other places.

    • Info of new case - 1 PP H-Core

      Female 34 years old. 30 colleagues working together and dozens of students. Contact tracing is in progress to find overlaps. Her last day is 10th of March. Tracing back to 7 days before the infection.

      Might be some invisible cases (asymptomatic) - which is why they're tracing back to 7 days.

    • More info on workplace preparedness - Need details as soon as possible and as accurately as possible.

    • 5th Wave? Any similarities with dancing grannies and boxing expats?

      Don't want to see this as the "5th Wave" and since it involves a lot of people and quick spread - the gym has been spreading and 1st contact to infection over 1-2-3 days and there might be a few generations of spreading (primary -> contact -> contact).

    • Has LeaveHomeSafe been helpful? - Gyms have been co-operative and provided lists and emailed customers - this has lead to quick identification and quarantines. LeaveHomeSafe - helps in cases.

    • Was there anyone from URSUS - in contact with Ming or CWB restaurants?

      Not found any overlaps.

    • Are the staff at URSUS - trainers or even admin / reception?

      Receptionists used the fitness rooms. Transmission is human to human. Group / private training and many customers did not wear masks and activity was intense - this has caused transmission.

    • 360 close contacts have been sent to quarantined and 450 contacts are being tested.

    • Ventilation - Not something CHP controls. The spread is human to human and groups of more than 10 students and the persistent source is the staff who were infected.

    • Occupations of customers? Banking, Finance, Lawyers and "various occupations". It is challenging as the rate of discovery over 1-2 days is high. Many bars / restaurants and meetings are involved. Cooperation of 2 levels of contacts is needed.

    • Companies and Schools involved: - Not announced a building list because it is large - both residential and workplaces. Need to undergo compulsory testing and wait for press releases.

    • Secondary Transmission - found in close contacts and has started. 3rd gen is likely from quarantine camps.

    • People breath more during exercise and will ventilation systems be required? - CHP is not an expert in ventilation.

    • Ace question! Will you ambush test all of Central and Western? - Not under the control of CHP.

    • Is this the 5th wave? - To what extent the outbreak will continue cannot be forecasted.

    • Can we handle the outbreak in short term due to AWE being suspended?

      Infection center will have multiple places - hardware is available, isolation wards are available and other wards can be activated. In the worst case AWE will be reopened.


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    Case List : Includes a large number of buildings where there will be some sort of testing requirement or the other:

    https://gia.info.gov.hk/general/2021...32.pdf?noembed

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    The list of casualty establishments and facilities seems to be growing - surely now it is the 5th wave?

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    What a cluster ....will be tough for them to regain trust again ... Something went terrible wrong .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeByeEngland:
    The list of casualty establishments and facilities seems to be growing - surely now it is the 5th wave?
    Aaron saying that it’ll only officially a fifth wave if they find that it is a new strain... though experts have started calling it one this morning. Easier for the public to understand I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthieuTofu:
    Aaron saying that it’ll only officially a fifth wave if they find that it is a new strain... though experts have started calling it one this morning. Easier for the public to understand I guess.
    I hearby call it the "EFC0321" strain... Expat Fight Club..

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    When they close the gyms, then it's officially the 5th wave, coming in 3, 2, 1...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MABinPengChau:
    When they close the gyms, then it's officially the 5th wave, coming in 3, 2, 1...
    Surely not. They closed the gyms with the wave that started in the dance clubs so, for consistency, they need to leave the gyms open and close the dance clubs this time round?
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