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    I dont give a f what you or the Brit thinks.

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    She does have a constitutional duty to ensure we have a free press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    She does have a constitutional duty to ensure we have a free press.
    Assuming of course what it means to have a "free press" is not "re-interpreted". Orwellian doublespeak is going to crop up more and more. I won't be surprised that one day "Free Press" means only permitting what is deemed "approved" news and messages by the government. Just like North Korea has "Democratic" in its official country title, even though everyone knows North Korea is anything but democratic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aw451:
    The "Rule of Law" they want to teach is Rule of Law with Chinese Characteristics so it's obviously going to be hard to swallow.

    I absolutely think kids should be taught about the rule of law but not the version our government wants to teach them.
    Actually another way to put it would be Rule By Law Mainland Style. Rule of law presuppose even the powerful and elite will be subject to the law. Legislation in a rule of law jurisdiction can be reviewed and even overturned by judicial review if it is proven to be ultra vires. Rule by law by contrast means your average citizen must obey the law, however unjust the law may be, it cannot be contestable by any means. In some cases, those in power may not necessarily be subject to the law itself. So in effect you have one set of law for the masses and another for the powerful and elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jw1701:
    Rule by law ie by the gun
    That was how the wild west born. Six gun shoot-out at the OK Corral.

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    "There are many intimations of what constitutes the rule of law - some may be described as perpetual truths and inspirational whilst others imaginative or even misleading. There are many ways by which the practice of rule of law is to be assessed, some based on subjective perception while others on objective indicia." Subjective data such as perception-based surveys may not accurately provide a fair picture of the practice of the rule of law in a particular place. As such, in order to develop a mechanism to review the practice of the rule of law, it may be more productive to use empirical and objective data to review the practice of some core fundamental in the practice of the rule of law.

    https://www.doj.gov.hk/en/community_...sj_speech.html

    It looks like the government will be defining what Rule of Law means in Hong Kong and "have taken the first step forward to launch the rule of law database"
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    Interesting that HK needs lessons on the concept of Rule of Law.

    https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/...3020200209.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMDNC:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...es-on-politics

    I thought 5-0 made some great points. Unreasonable to disagree with goal of having a safe city.
    How is a city with no freedom of thought/action a safe city? I think you meant to say totalitarian.

    And on the idea that we should not tempt the law. Should that not first require that we know what the law is and what it isn't?

    Such a shame to see people so easily accept being a subordinate to power.