Overseas Doctors Bill Approved

[JAherbert]

HA has been in news every week recently with hospitals crumbling, concrete failing, etc. but the CEO has time to travel to UK, probably a nice first class jolly, for a recruitment exercise? beyond pathetic.

apparently he is taking appointment letters with him, but nobody has reported the important issue, how many fax machines he will be taking!

[JAherbert]

HA has been in news every week recently with hospitals crumbling, concrete failing, etc. but the CEO has time to travel to UK, probably a nice first class jolly, for a recruitment exercise? beyond pathetic.

apparently he is taking appointment letters with him, but nobody has reported the important issue, how many fax machines he will be taking!

and noticed the response to the crumbling infrastructure, faulty lights, etc. it is the same ............ HA is very concerned and very disappointed about [insert name of someone else, except HA, to blame here]

[chobochobo]

As predicted, the recent tranche of recruits has been full of mainland doctors and nurses.

[sarsi]

I dunno if scrapping the exam was always the plan to increase supply, just stuck in limbo and SOS fast tracked for covid. I don't even know where to start - why would HA even assume the licensing exam is the barrier? How abt pay and job opportunities cuz why would a foreign doctor decide to leave their job or skip internship to work in HK unless they already have a lucrative job offer in hand - such an offer probably will be from private hospital and not public. How abt improving the promotion track so medical officers won't jump ship to private practice because they don't need to wait forever to get to the next title/pay scale..

Also the genius move by HA make A&E/admissions free for patients with or suspected covid during the height of pandemic. Hospitals/med staff stretched to breaking point due to pandemic or due to this, who knows >.<

To top it off, as if death randomly falling from above wasn't strange enough, this licensing stuff isn't bothering me that much atm cuz there's that whole medical murder thing still hanging in the air..

[sarsi]

https://www.healthbureau.gov.hk/en/p...mro/index.html

I am all for getting more doctors into the system.. but I don't care for mainland-trained doctors at all and don't care to try. Why would I or anyone feel differently about this, every PRC person I know feels exactly the same way as I do. Everyone I know who needs medical attn in China, minor or major ailments - if they are local and can afford it, they go overseas. If they are foreigners, they go back home country. If at any point in time they think oh nvm, too troublesome maybe just do it here, all the PRC locals go nono, it's better if you do it elsewhere ;p Is it the doctors themselves that are crap or the med education that's crap, their training or the lack of health standards.. dunno. Ask China :p

Btw I was thinking abt the per capita doctor ratio. There's no breakdown into public or private and I also don't doubt the shortage but this is really just the public sector? Cuz there's a GP clinic everywhere I go, not uncommon to have 2 on a single street..

The Hospital Authority manages 43 public hospitals and institutions, 49 Specialist Out-patient Clinics and 74 General Out-patient Clinics. These are organised into seven hospital clusters based on locations

The HK Department of Health also provides subsidized healthcare under its DoH clinics and health centres. Singapore's public health system is subsidised tho not really (I think they jack some % of it from CPF contributions). In any event, the doctor bill is cheaper if you go to a polyclinic or public hospital. I've never lived close enough to one in Sg or HK to avail public healthcare so the process/wait could be just as dire but Sg has 10 public hospitals, 5 community ones and 20 polyclinics.

HK is much bigger so more presence required but Sg population is 5.4 mil, HK 7.4mil :x

[JAherbert]

and noticed the response to the crumbling infrastructure, faulty lights, etc. it is the same ............ HA is very concerned and very disappointed about [insert name of someone else, except HA, to blame here]

not sure if HA CEO has left for his UK jolly yet, but yesterday Tuen Mun hospital A&E dept. and critical care areas were shuttered because the whole place flooded, the building is not that old either, its about 31 years old. I had to go to tuen mun hospital A&E a few years ago, back then, inside the plaster room, it was mold city! seems nothing has changed

https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...by-rain-on-Sat


update: can make this stuff up, HA CEO is going to London, UK for recruitment event on 1 April! I hope he takes his fax machine haha

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/compone...9-20230326.htm

[shri]

But it's free... Free medical in HK!

[East_coast]

I would suggest healthcare systems not just the doctors should be a consideration for where doctors are imported from

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/sy...ruption_en.pdf

https://academic.oup.com/heapol/adva...dFrom=fulltext