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    Can someone please tell me is Hong Kong the only place in the world where we have vertical transmission?
    And we keep chugging bleach down the U - traps?

    And meanwhile they continue building as usual with the same design ????


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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaurs88:
    Can someone please tell me is Hong Kong the only place in the world where we have vertical transmission?
    And we keep chugging bleach down the U - traps?

    And meanwhile they continue building as usual with the same design ????
    The good news is that this means they are unlikely to order a city-wide "lockdown" in the same way other countries did as those u-traps would mean it would be a superspreader event.

    EDIT. Ponders for a moment and wonders if that was WHY some other countries spiralled even in lockdown!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaurs88:
    Can someone please tell me is Hong Kong the only place in the world where we have vertical transmission?
    And we keep chugging bleach down the U - traps?

    And meanwhile they continue building as usual with the same design ????
    Come on, get with the science, you don't need to put bleach into your drains, that's just more HK paranoia.

    Transmission 101:

    Covid is a respiratory infection, it travels in the air, (suspended mostly in droplets of moisture).

    Droplets (aerosols) only get airborne by some form of pump mechanism (lungs mostly) or in this low likelihood scenario, the flush mechanism of a toilet, or pressure differential from water falling under gravity.

    The U trap is a simple mechanism that uses bulk water as a seal so that air (or other gasses) are unable to travel back up the system. It's been effective for about 250 yrs since its invention.

    Cease with the bleach. Just add water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeByeEngland:
    well of course it
    was an imported case, that disgusting ‘Pakistani’ women started all this

    just to be on the safe side note the ‘’
    this a case for NSL
    or maybe a year xiangjiang will do too

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    The family of an 88-year-old bedridden woman have lost contact with her since she was sent from an elderly nursing home linked to the Kwai Chung Estate Covid-19 cluster to a temporary quarantine centre at AsiaWorld-Expo, her daughter said.

    Distraught family members were told by nursing staff that their mother – who wears adult diapers – would not be showered during her 14-day quarantine.
    What the actual fuck?

    https://hongkongfp.com/2022/01/26/co...antine-centre/

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    Hong Kong’s zero-tolerance approach to Covid-19 could keep the Asian financial hub cut off from most of the world until 2024 and fuel a large-scale exodus of international workers and executives, according to a draft report by the European Chamber of Commerce in the city.

    The most likely scenario for Hong Kong’s exit from its isolation is to wait for China to finish developing a powerful messenger RNA vaccine and immunize its 1.4 billion people, the business group said in an internal document seen and verified by Bloomberg.

    A reopening could then happen late next year or early 2024, the document said, adding that companies should prepare for Hong Kong to remain “semi-closed” to international travel.

    “We anticipate an exodus of foreigners, probably the largest that Hong Kong has ever seen, and one of the largest in absolute terms from any city in the region” in recent history, the report said.

    That would make Hong Kong less diverse and less appealing to international firms, and eventually limit its potential to contribute to China’s economy, the report said, adding that global companies should plan to have regional offices in other Asian cities instead of the former British colony.

    It’s unclear whether the European Chamber’s assessment will change in the final version of its report. The draft said the report consolidated insights from “a few sessions organized with different parties” over the past few months, without providing further details on the information used to formulate its scenarios.

    A spokeswoman for the European Chamber declined to comment.

    The warning comes as Hong Kong imposes near-lockdown conditions and bans flights from eight places, including the U.S. and U.K, to fight an omicron outbreak. The city’s Covid-Zero approach means an aggressive response to a minute number of cases by global standards, even as the rest of the world is adjusting to living with the virus amid high vaccination levels.

    Flight bans and mandates of up to 21 days in quarantine for travelers have stranded high-ranking financial executives outside the city and made it harder for global firms to hire top talent.
    Waiting for China

    The report also walked through other scenarios, including the possibility that an uncontrolled outbreak in China would derail any effort to open the border between Hong Kong and the mainland. Then the city would have to wait for China to control the outbreak, or abandon the zero tolerance approach and begin reopening on its own.

    This scenario could play out within 12 months of an uncontrolled outbreak in China, the report said, and also result in the city delaying its reopening until 2023 or 2024.

    In another possible outcome, Hong Kong itself could experience an uncontrolled outbreak, with the government responding by imposing severe restrictions surpassing those the city has seen thus far. Those could include widespread lockdowns, even tighter border closures and food shortages, the report said.
    20,000 Deaths

    That scenario could result in as many as 20,000 deaths among Hong Kong’s elderly, the report said, since vaccination rates among seniors are much lower than the rest of the population.

    The least likely scenario is that Hong Kong and China both adhere to their Covid Zero approaches for the foreseeable future and don’t open to the rest of the world. China would then continue with its internal focus and Hong Kong would become a “collateral casualty” stuck between its dependency on the mainland and its role as an international city.

    The document was designed to help international businesses determine how to prepare for the future in Hong Kong.
    With travel curbs likely to last for the next one to three years, businesses need to focus on retaining talented and skilled workers, the report recommended.

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    Bad translation ... but I assume they're not advising residents in the locked down buildings to jump out of their balconies & avoid elevators and "trapped beasts" in the building, when going for their mandatory testing..

    As for the extension of the time for the government to enclose the buildings, Lam Wai-sun pointed out that the risk of "trapped beasts" in the encircled buildings cannot be ruled out. He said that when residents fall off the buildings for testing, airborne transmission may occur in a cramped environment. 2 masks.
    https://std.stheadline.com/realtime/article/1802440/

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    Whats the covid/omicron death rate in HK so far? we have over a few hundred positive cases already and it can be enough to provide a sense of the "risk"

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.YU:
    Whats the covid/omicron death rate in HK so far? we have over a few hundred positive cases already and it can be enough to provide a sense of the "risk"
    So far, nobody even in the ICU. But we have not had double digits for long enough to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK_Katherine:
    So far, nobody even in the ICU. But we have not had double digits for long enough to be sure.
    When I commented along those lines on Twitter, I got a couple of replies...
    https://twitter.com/bencowling88/sta...52951083028484
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