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Mar 9: 25991 (PCR) / 32766 (RAT) Cases / 195+95 Deaths

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArrynField:
    Complacency and ignorance of science, poor advice and low death rates during the Delta wave have contributed to these unfortunate deaths. Whilst many countries made it a priority to vaccinate the elderly and immune compromised, many in HK chose not to. Why vaccinate when there’s no risk? Why argue with science when the proofs in the pudding? Many people don’t realise until it’s too late. The results are clear to see. Darwin always wins.

    Most elderly have lived through the deadly Delta strain, yet many have fallen as they believed that existing measures were enough against a less severe Omicron strain. That is the fault of the family members and initially Doctors giving bad advice to protect themselves and selective media reporting.

    You can criticise the HK Government for mishandling and being unprepared for 2 years. Like many have said giving a cash incentive for vaccinated coupled with dining restrictions could have easily averted this crisis. 20/20 hindsight is wonderful.
    As jgl says this did not require hindsight. Did you not read about covid ripping through care homes in the UK, USA, France, Italy, Spain, etc? If you read about it then surely someone in charge of managing covid here did. And ignored it.

    As njstone posted, the UK priorirltised the elderly for vaccination over a year ago. In the Philippines the same, group A2 just after health care workers. I am.sure every other country did similar.

    So it was not lack of hindsight, it was all totally obvious and visible. The deaths are on their hands.

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    They are waiting for isolation capacity to exceed current infected for detentions to begin and proclaim it works.

    Read between the lines for what Liang Wannian is saying, and it’s no change, more control in store.
    hullexile, MatthieuTofu and Sage like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK_Katherine:
    Why is the HK rate so high?
    * HK has a very high proportion of elderly in the population - globally up there with Italy and Japan
    * Our elderly did not got get vaccinated - meaning that for them, this really is April 2020
    * Our entire population is "covid naive" - infections have not filled gaps in vaccination to the extent they have in (say) India
    * Our infrastructure is totally devoted to the spread of infection - huge buildings with lifts and corridors; linked AC and sewage systems; most people rely on mass transport for all transportation
    * Belief in the magic mask - too many people in HK think a mask will protect them, so they IGNORE ALL THE FACTS ABOVE and just go about their business as usual! Or at least they did, for many weeks. We never got - we STILL DON"T HAVE - any real social distancing or focus on good ventilation.
    * With all of the above, we then get his by THE MOST transmissible variant (even if it's about half the actual deadliness) meaning that it swept through at a rate unprecedented in the world, Nowhere else did Omicron hit such an un-vaccinated vulnerable population.

    Looking at the worldometer data, yes we are hitting peaks not seen anywhere else for instantaneous death rates, But for total deaths per million, still not in the top. Yet. But we have overtaken other places we criticised - showing JUST HOW BADLY this government has fucked up.
    All very valid points. And I feel like pointing out that if you replace HK with China, all of these points remain valid. Which means that when - not if, imho - an omicron outbreak too large to control happens in China, we will see the same scenario play out on 100x the scale (potentially worse if they don't create a patriotic mRNA vaccine before it happens)

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    They never stopped wanting to throw everyone into covid jail, they just ran out of cells so they had to temporarily let people isolate at home... Now they're doing some fairly large-scale emergency construction, plus they've taken a bunch of hotel rooms that would be used for quarantine if they hadn't all-but-sealed the border, plus they're expecting numbers to start going down, so they'll be able to go back to their patriotic lock-everyone-up plan again soon.

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