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  1. #41

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    I'm fantasising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shree711:
    Hong Kong's attraction lies in its exceptionalism. The more you give the message that you are integrating into China without maintaining vast differences operationally, the less attractive you are to differentiate yourself from mainland China.
    Quote Originally Posted by East_coast:
    I would suggest HK's advantage was its normalism against China's exceptionalism in a global context.
    I think you're both right. HK been the world's gateway into China and China's gateway to the world. It has been the world's most important border town because both sides can have a sense of comfort and belonging . . . but that is no longer the case.
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    Love it.. Worlds border Town. Slogan launched, problems fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shri:
    Love it.. Worlds border Town. Slogan launched, problems fixed.
    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt30:
    Quarantine free travel with the mainland. Obviously this is dependent on the mainland, not much HK gov can do about it. Like it or not, mainland tourism made a significant contribution to HK's GDP. Without this tourism HK will continue to shrink.
    That's a myth. There's only 4% of Hong Kong's GDP from tourism. Hong Kong has an unemployment rate of 4.3% after almost 3 years without mainland tourists (before 2019 it was about 3.3% on average).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanieskis:
    - Children - get rid of all Covid measures impacting schools. Remove risk of child separation in hospitals.
    - Establish some more English medium public schools. This will help attract non-Cantonese speaking young expat families who can't afford international school fees.
    - Overhaul and investment in healthcare system. I note that John Lee already mentioned something about primary care. This could be big if done right - the lack of decent primary care is likely a major contributor to the lox vaccination rate of the elderly.
    - Mass building of public housing on brown field sites. No expensive land reclamation projects.
    - Major investment in green technology.
    'Non-Cantonese speaking young expat families that cannot afford international school fees' are not the kind of people Hong Kong wants. Just look at Singapore, they're attracting foreigners who earn a monthly salary of SGD 30,000 and above. Asian cities want to attract top global talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungpaochicken:
    'Non-Cantonese speaking young expat families that cannot afford international school fees' are not the kind of people Hong Kong wants. Just look at Singapore, they're attracting foreigners who earn a monthly salary of SGD 30,000 and above. Asian cities want to attract top global talent.
    Following CX slashing their T&Cs, it's made it very hard for them to recruit overseas pilots with young families, if the pilot is the main breadwinner. An FO's salary will not support, for example, rent, and two children in international schools. That's made the pool of pilots they can recruit from much smaller than before. And CX still offer a better deal than the other airlines, who will find it even harder... I don't think they're going to find a bunch of Cantonese speaking qualified pilots. This is just one example, I'm sure there are plenty of other examples of jobs that are struggling to be filled locally, and pay well above the average HK salary - but not enough to pay school fees so ruling out anyone with children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungpaochicken:
    'Non-Cantonese speaking young expat families that cannot afford international school fees' are not the kind of people Hong Kong wants. Just look at Singapore, they're attracting foreigners who earn a monthly salary of SGD 30,000 and above. Asian cities want to attract top global talent.
    I am sure they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kungpaochicken:
    Hong Kong has an unemployment rate of 4.3% after almost 3 years without mainland tourists (before 2019 it was about 3.3% on average).
    Factor in large number of people temporarity hired for Anti-covid fight (Community Centres, Quarantine prisons and other facilities, Ambush lockdown, cleaning staffs in hazmat, testing laboratories and so on), also Govt declared anti-pandemic fund for Govt departments to create temporary positions which is also coming to an end soon, add in first/second round package of millions of dollars to crony companies (Centaline types) helped them hold on to those scumbags which should run out soon with falling transactions, add in few rounds of ESS helping employers to hold on to staffs with partial help.. Net positive effect of all these should come to an end soon, finally in looming global recession and unemployment rate in rearview mirror will look meaningless, lets see where it goes next year unless Govt declares another steroid package.. Any futuristic growth plan in much touted soon to be release policy address, tech innovation and GBA integration bla bla rhetoric is yawn worthy in current environment..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanieskis:
    Following CX slashing their T&Cs, it's made it very hard for them to recruit overseas pilots with young families, if the pilot is the main breadwinner. An FO's salary will not support, for example, rent, and two children in international schools. That's made the pool of pilots they can recruit from much smaller than before. And CX still offer a better deal than the other airlines, who will find it even harder... I don't think they're going to find a bunch of Cantonese speaking qualified pilots. This is just one example, I'm sure there are plenty of other examples of jobs that are struggling to be filled locally, and pay well above the average HK salary - but not enough to pay school fees so ruling out anyone with children.
    Families who earn well above the average HK salary should be able to afford international school fees. There are cheaper options among international schools. Do you know HK actually has more than 100 English-medium schools, but most expats don't send their kids there, probably because the schools are considered 'too local.'

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