Some universities seem to be big on gaming the numbers. I know of a bunch of colleagues that got full scholarships and other freebies to attend HKU. They are smart guys and gals and were great to work with. But they came from countries where they wouldn't easily get a visa to live/work in HK... Still would have needed high marks to get in, but it wouldn't attract folks that could get into Harvard, Oxbridge, etc. Similar to how selective schools in Australia screen out the kids and get top marks in final year high school. 9/10 top schools are selective schools. Number 9 in NSW is a private school. Supposedly it's selective and has entrance exams in later school. They also select at pre-school / kindergarten, not sure how the principal does it...
A lot of the other western universities don't really bother playing that game (THE uses international students as a measure). Thought a lot of Australia universities are beholden to foreign students, as they were an easy cash cow. And getting a university degree was a way of getting Australia visas.
ANU was really big on 'publish or perish' and stacked up with academics that churned out lots and lots of research papers. Teaching was less of a priority and a lot of people I know didn't really enjoy the teaching. But that is probably high dependent on the teacher.
I think HK did well for having population density and reasonable free flow of ideas, etc. Not sure how long that will last.
Supposedly the top Chinese university students are highly rated, beyond the top 1000 universities worldwide, they seem to be terrible.
There were way too many universities in Australia and big distances between them. They are really stacked full of students that can barely speak english, sit in a master degree and students in the team were doing shockingly bad copy and paste jobs on the projects and barely english, let alone any logic to the text. I'm sure they faked the TOEFL scores and outsourced their individual essays to the paper mills.
And a bunch of students were too busy working to turn up to class. In a team of 5, it was probably the Swedish or Dutch students that did the work and myself that did the work. Other three did nothing and still got a masters in the end... MBA degree had much better screening and all the candidates were several leagues above.
The nordic students liked Australia - warm weather, get paid AUD$40-$50 ph for simple washing dishes or hotel cleaning work part time. Some were tutors, etc.
Good luck discussing international relations or politics when you are going to hurt the feelings of billions of people... Or sit in a class where the non-CCP aligned student gets bullied / hassled by the CCP connected student(s). The folks with Porsches and BMWs versus the kids that take the bus to class and work part time to pay their bills.
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This is standard rates. A lot of fancier places will pay a lot more, as their is a lack of staff now.
Lollypop ladies earn a heaps.
Of course, certain groups make get rorted by their compatriots... Picking quarrels and provoking troubles.
Certain franchisees would rort their staff... Paid their wages, then asked for money to be paid back to them in cash...
I was looking at the THE for Medicine which was published a few days ago. I think it's a bit naive to think that home universities don't fiddle the system to get better position on the table. The old Norrington table was fiddled by colleges kicking out potential thirds and 2:1s on the second or third years before they took the exams.
Absolutely. I'm no fan of tables but when they exist, they will be abused/fiddled/ prioritised, what have you.