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    Quote Originally Posted by DonDiego:
    The local population should see themselves in their home and not visiting/conquering foreigners from long ago, it makes no sense at all.
    Vast majority of HK residents moved here or descended from those who moved here a long time after the British took over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarsi:
    Discussing pride and self esteem as a response and reflex reaction in this specific context thrown out by a HK politician for the purpose of looking useful and patriotic so that he can cover his ass to avoid being NSLed and extradited to China in the remotest of risk has everything to do with subtle hatred manufacturing and cowardice and nothing to do with real pride and self-esteem of HK ppl..
    Then you judge the politician, not the action which is in my opinion something that should happen and for very good reasons. Some people here hate the government so much that they would discount or ridicule anything that comes from them just because... Hate is manufactured in many ways

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrit:
    Vast majority of HK residents moved here or descended from those who moved here a long time after the British took over.
    They are certainly not descendant of Connaught, Robinson or Morrison are they now...

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    Keep the English names (tourism) and change the signs to simplified Chinese.

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    I am judging both bcos both deserve the judgment, no logical reason to separate them at all in this context. Luckily street names can be changed multiple times so never too late to revisit it when there are no external factors prompting this sudden surge of HK pride clumped with new desire to rid names from colony times..

    Seriously who is this stupid ho >.<


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    This is being and has been done all over the world to reflect new realities, names of countries and cities, streets have changed to reflect who they are. it's nothing original and most likely inevitable. The question is whether it will reflect China as a whole or Hong Kong. I hope it's the latter because assimilation into the mainland is coming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DonDiego:
    The analogy makes no sense since there the overlord and the colonists were essentially the same race and there is no link from the majority of the population to native americans. I completely understand and support cities/countries that prefer honoring the local culture. In Quebec, many prominent streets and parks were renamed away from English colonial names to local legends. In Montreal, a major street called Dorchester Boulevard was renamed after Rene Levesque, a prominent politician there and that's the way it should be.

    Local people should recognize themselves in their town and it shouldn't be tied to the past especially to colonizers. New Zealand has also done an excellent job in promoting island culture something that has sorely been lacking in North America. More and more people are calling NZ Aotearoa, Kia Ora is now a popular greeting there and just about every NZ school has a haka dance. Ideally, Hong Kong would do the same and honor its CANTONESE heritage and culture. Many people particularly from the anglo saxon world which dominates fail to recognize the importance for a minority to preserve its heritage and foster pride in it. One thing that comes up time and time again in native population with high suicide rate is the lack of pride and self esteem and the disconnect to their culture. Even is she was a useless puppet that was massively unpopular, I would still rather see a Carrie Lam Rd than a Gloucester Rd. In any case, no need to go there, there are enough worthy people in HK to replace old colonial names.
    That's a problem with renaming parks or "decolonizing" Hong Kong. It is clear that it will not be about honoring Hong Kong's local culture and traditions. Instead, it will be a process of mainlandization - "People's Park," "Liberation Road." This is simply another form of colonization - destruction of local conventions and the imposition of a foreign culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kungpaochicken:
    That's a problem with renaming parks or "decolonizing" Hong Kong. It is clear that it will not be about honoring Hong Kong's local culture and traditions. Instead, it will be a process of mainlandization - "People's Park," "Liberation Road." This is simply another form of colonization - destruction of local conventions and the imposition of a foreign culture.
    That's how it goes.
    The winner writes the street signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonDiego:
    Having pride in your own culture and representing your city/country with your own icons is not about hatred, it's about pride and self esteem. The local population should see themselves in their home and not visiting/conquering foreigners from long ago, it makes no sense at all..
    The thing is that the history of Hong Kong is interwoven with 155 years of British influence. There was little there pre 1842 which is why the Qing were 'happy' to hand it over. So to remove all reference to the British from Hong Kong is removing it's history.

    Britain is full of references to it's past and the people who invaded, lived and ruled it. We love visiting Roman remains, buildings, towns. Whitby is a Viking town. Anything ending 'by' has Viking routes. (Derby, Rugby etc) As does 'thorpe' (Scunthorpe).

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    But seriously who is this junius ho. Don't let him make something that wasn't a thing before and using it to waste the gov's time on it, an opp cost to us all.

    I actually think the most HKesque response to a rename even with gd intentions would be exasperated amusement bcos it is quite random and lofty. Or if proposed by junius ho in this context, I can imagine HK collective eyeroll, scoffing and several dius and qi sins followed by long tirade of if you've got so much time why don't you (insert latest grievance abt gov not doing other more important shit). When something is stupid and a waste of time even before it can qualify as an offence against society, HK ppl are always the first to call it out to your face. Don't let the NSL and snitching take root in your mind. Sometimes calling out stupid matter of fact directly is just that, and the direct part is what shuts potential snitches up.


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