Jan 9th 2023 - Quarantine Free Travel to China

[Crankshaft]

From reading a spate of recent articles, you need to add inferior medical infrastructure to the list. There is neither the trained staff nor equipment to cope with a surge in critical cases. There are very few ICU beds to deal with and support patients who would otherwise survive.

It looks like it will be a very grim few months.

Good catch, forgot about that very important aspect. Yeah nah they are completely f****d. Chickens coming home to roost on their arrogant comments about the West's covid strategy.

[FrancisX]

Given the mild symptoms of Omicron, just how many "critical cases" should be expected? Are people with covid still being put in ICUs and shunted on to deadly ventilators? What's the comparable situation in Hong Kong?

[saltywetman]

Given the mild symptoms of Omicron, just how many "critical cases" should be expected? Are people with covid still being put in ICUs and shunted on to deadly ventilators? What's the comparable situation in Hong Kong?

Given that Hong Kong had one of the highest death rate per capita with a similar vaccination profile (actually, possibly better with Western vaccines also available), it could be catastrophic. Omnicron is only mild if you have a decent vaccine or have been exposed to the virus through infection or just being pretty much anywhere that hasn't run a zero Covid policy.

Unvaccinated elderly are in trouble- they may survive the "milder" Covid with decent medical support- that is missing in China right now on the scale of widespread infection.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/study-she...covid-19-surge

[Gatts]

Given the mild symptoms of Omicron, just how many "critical cases" should be expected? Are people with covid still being put in ICUs and shunted on to deadly ventilators? What's the comparable situation in Hong Kong?

Covid is only considered milder in a vaccinated population and/or population with high build up immunity, China has neither.

[shri]

Between this and the circular that retail businesses have been asked to conduct electrical / equipment checks... does look like there will be some changes soon-ish at the border.

Among them, the Immigration Department, which is responsible for the management of passenger immigration affairs, has recently issued an internal circular, arranging that all personnel who have been transferred from the control points will gradually return to their respective ports on duty starting next Wednesday (28th).

https://www.hk01.com/article/849992?...edium=referral

[shri]

Also... the Pfizer vaccination is now available to the private sector for purchase. I assume again this is HK's version of medical tourism!

[Cheeky Kiwi]

1 JAN 2023

[ndt]

We are clearly living in a dystopian world, unusually critical article on China and its Covid policy flip-flops on SCMP front page...

Wonder how opening the border (if it happens) will work out.. If SCMP has this on front page, situation on the ground must be 4 times worse..


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/poli...gtype=homepage

[shri]

Beijing has agreed to implement full borders reopening, Lee said as he arrived at the airport on Saturday afternoon after finishing his maiden duty visit in Beijing.

He also said his cabinet will immediately contact the National Health Commission, the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs of the State Council, and authorities in Guangdong and Shenzhen to come up with a proposal agreed by all parties.

“Our goal is to reach an agreement as soon as possible and to file the proposal to Beijing for approval, with an aim to implement the arrangements before mid-January,” Lee said.

https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...tion/4/198522/

[mengfei]

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/xa-X7Tdz_OlSs52Bj0oAtg